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WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 29/02/2024 19:39

The bbc report on it managed to avoid any pronouns at all.

2Old2Tango · 29/02/2024 19:41

They've updated the article. There's one 'she' and they now mostly refer to him as 'they', 'Scott' or 'the thug'. I think the latter is quite fitting.

FinallyASunnyDay · 29/02/2024 19:41

Do you think they (the press) are learning?!!

NancyDrawed · 29/02/2024 19:42

My apologies, it was 'she' when I read the article

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AlisonDonut · 29/02/2024 19:44

Is 'the thug' now the pronoun of choice for these people (and by these people I mean males who say they are women and who are violent criminals)?

ValerieDoonican · 29/02/2024 19:45

NancyDrawed · 29/02/2024 19:42

My apologies, it was 'she' when I read the article

Don't apologise, it's fascinating and revealing!

Boiledbeetle · 29/02/2024 19:45

Doubt there will be many people mourning the death of this absolute nutter

ValerieDoonican · 29/02/2024 19:46

AlisonDonut · 29/02/2024 19:44

Is 'the thug' now the pronoun of choice for these people (and by these people I mean males who say they are women and who are violent criminals)?

If the cap fits..which it does...

CantFindTheBeat · 29/02/2024 19:47

@TheCompactPussycat

It must have, yes..

Good.

BlackForestCake · 29/02/2024 19:47

He was only 32, I wonder what happened to him?

Rainbowshit · 29/02/2024 19:48

@VivienneDelacroix

Tiffany was never going to be moved to a female prison. That was made extremely clear.

Tiffany Scott was cleared as not a risk to be placed in a female prison.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64438457.amp

It was only the outcry over Isla Bryson that put a spanner in the move.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 29/02/2024 19:48

I hope his victims can take some small comfort that he won't ever be out walking the streets again.

IcakethereforeIam · 29/02/2024 19:48

Thug-gender. Although it definitely said 'she'.

takemeawayagain · 29/02/2024 19:57

Not going to be shedding any tears over him.

AlisonDonut · 29/02/2024 19:58

takemeawayagain · 29/02/2024 19:57

Not going to be shedding any tears over him.

We've just celebrated with some Oreo biscuits.

Waitwhat23 · 29/02/2024 20:01

Rainbowshit · 29/02/2024 19:48

@VivienneDelacroix

Tiffany was never going to be moved to a female prison. That was made extremely clear.

Tiffany Scott was cleared as not a risk to be placed in a female prison.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64438457.amp

It was only the outcry over Isla Bryson that put a spanner in the move.

Was coming here to say that. It's incredibly disingenuous for the article linked in the OP to claim that Scott failed in a bid to be moved to a female prison.

He'd been approved to move to a female prison by the SPS (an executive agency of the Scottish Government) and the move was only blocked because of the public outcry over Isla Bryson -

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/violent-trans-prisoner-tiffany-scott-29130979

The Scottish Government's hand was forced into a u-turn.

Tiffany Scott HAD been cleared to move to women's jail despite Keith Brown claim

A prison source said that the violent trans offender, formerly known as Andrew Burns, was preparing to leave Low Moss in Glasgow, to be sent to a woman's prison like Cornton Vale in Stirling.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/violent-trans-prisoner-tiffany-scott-29130979

NancyDrawed · 29/02/2024 20:02

IcakethereforeIam · 29/02/2024 19:48

Thug-gender. Although it definitely said 'she'.

It very definitely did - I've accidentally got it open on two tabs and the text is different in the later update

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Froodwithatowel · 29/02/2024 20:02

I'm never going to celebrate any death. He must have been extremely stressful to be responsible for, and extremely difficult to contain and keep from hurting himself or others in any prison set up, the man was dangerously insane and managed a number of awful incidents even inside full containment.

The BBC seem to be managing straight forward reporting so far. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-68442073

Tiffany Scott

Trans prisoner Tiffany Scott dies in jail

The 32-year-old, previously known as Andrew Burns, was the subject of a lifelong restriction order.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-68442073

CantFindTheBeat · 29/02/2024 20:03

Please take a screen grab of the original, OP.

Mmmnotsure · 29/02/2024 20:05

It was she throughout just a little while ago. Now it's Scott and he/they. Wonder why the sudden rewriting?

mynamechangemyrules · 29/02/2024 20:06

The thing is, whatever else is going on here, when I read stuff like this I just think, what happened to the poor child he once was? In prisons since 15 and dead at 32.
Not denying s/he was a thug. Just sad that people can end up living this kind of a life.

PolisNonsense · 29/02/2024 20:07

mynamechangemyrules · 29/02/2024 20:06

The thing is, whatever else is going on here, when I read stuff like this I just think, what happened to the poor child he once was? In prisons since 15 and dead at 32.
Not denying s/he was a thug. Just sad that people can end up living this kind of a life.

He.

Froodwithatowel · 29/02/2024 20:08

Never been any mention of his diagnoses, but it would be very likely if in prisons by 15 that he would have been extremely difficult even at 3 or 4. Whatever he was born with was obviously very severe.

NancyDrawed · 29/02/2024 20:09

CantFindTheBeat · 29/02/2024 20:03

Please take a screen grab of the original, OP.

I'll have a look at archiving, if that would preserve the original? I'm pleased it has been altered although it makes it look like I was not telling the truth when I posted.

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Mmmnotsure · 29/02/2024 20:10

Phil Fairlie, assistant general secretary of the Prison Officers Association (Scotland), said: “The appearances in court and hospitals by Tiffany Scott is exposing the public to what prison officers get from her on a regular basis.”

Except they missed one. Last paragraph.