Tiffany Scott has died in prison

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/violent-scots-transgender-prisoner-tiffany-32243385

Referred to as 'she' throughout the article. Acceptance without exception, though

Exactly. I wouldn't even justify that post with a response quite frankly. @mzdemeanour said nothing wrong.

Great news I hope the fucker suffered a slow painful death
Good riddance!!

Maybe he had relatives, but friends, really?

The Scarlet Blake case got me wondering what my child would have to do for me to disown them - I'd disown Scarlet (or whatever his name actually is) for starters. This one too, without a doubt.

The behaviour was so disturbed I'm surprised Scott wasn't in a high security mental health hospital.

You don’t get to police how other people react to the death of a violent thug who tried to work his way into women’s spaces, thus putting women at risk.

I can’t say I’m sad to see that a violent man like this is no longer able to put women at risk, but like PPs, I have compassion for whatever happened to this person as a child to turn them into such a monster.

Yes. I’ve been reading and wondering what makes them think he isn’t mentally ill.

It suggests that psychiatrists think he is just exceptionally aggressive and has no impulse control- or no desire to control himself.

His initial crimes weren’t particularly extraordinary if I remember correctly, but his behaviour in prison has been unmanageable.

I wonder whether he has a missed diagnosis, or perhaps he refused to cooperate with diagnosis or treatment.

It is sad. But prison officers and other prisoners wil doubtless be relieved.

Following your logic, when he identified as Obi Wan Kenobi, he was really a Jedi Master.

More biased reporting from the previous decade…….https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/dangerous-obi-wan-kenobi-guilty-of-prison-attacks-1086448

No, popebishop’s right.

Acceptance without exception & the total lack of gatekeeping that goes with it means that Scott was just as much a transwoman as India Willoughby, Paris Lees or Shon Faye. You can’t separate them out by degrees of transness. They’re all part of the same group.

No, popebishop’s right.

Acceptance without exception & the total lack of gatekeeping that goes with it means that Scott was just as much a transwoman as India Willoughby, Paris Lees or Shon Faye. You can’t separate them out by degrees of transness. They’re all part of the same group.

Yes you're right. I hope that was @popebishop's intention with the post. To shine a light on the absurdity of this. I automatically assumed not. I hope I was wrong.

From previous posts I’m pretty sure @popebishop gets it.

So now all the female crime stats are complete rubbish?
That is so crap

From previous posts I’m pretty sure @popebishop gets it.

In that case apologies to @popebishop

Considering how violent he was, I'm so so glad he was never put in a women's prison. Can you imagine how frightening that would have been for the women incarcerated with him?

This person was no more or less trans than anyone else who says 'I am trans' - that's what we are told by TRAs as to what being trans is. There is no external assessment to 'prove' you're transgender, unless you get a GRC in which you have to 'live as a woman', which, again, has no actual criteria (I believe changing your name or gender on forms is sufficient).

I'm happy to listen to your arguments that only the nice harmless people are really trans, and if we create policies that allow anyone IDing as women into female spaces that then go on to cause harm, Whoops! Well it doesn't count as they weren't really trans.

But if you think there are levels of people who are really TW and people who are pretending you will need to explain what the difference is and why it matters.

Yep bore off. He was a very violent men who was due to be transferred to women’s prison according to reports

Right. And you think this means we're all getting our knickers in a twist about TW unreasonably because you think this person wasn't one? I don't think you do actually mean that.

Again - I'm arguing against the posters who are saying 'TS wasn't really trans'. Why? How? How do we stop people pretending to be trans, because surely that's a massive issue? Will we actually need to come up with some kind of criteria when letting males into women's spaces? What would that look like?

Absolutely. I actually feel sympathy for the other male inmates, and especially the prison wardens and guards.

He gives me Tommy Lee Royce vibes.

Cross-post.

We’ve just been thrashing that out upthread, & I think you two actually agree on this.

He, not bloody they

Remember, everyone, that the Scottish government voted down an amendment to their ludicrous GRR bill that would have stopped sex offenders from getting a GRC. After all, three months in a dress and a change of gas bill is enough proof that a man is a woman.

Not that any of that matters, I suppose, since men have been put in women's prisons, recorded as women when committing crimes, given "female-only" jobs running rape crisis centres, described as women/she in news paper articles, and won women's races, without having to go to the trouble of getting the magic piece of paper.

We’ve just been thrashing that out upthread, & I think you two actually agree on this.

Yes, don't get me wrong, I'm all for any kind of checks and balances at all being introduced, if we have to have males in female spaces. However, this has always been described as transphobic, and I don't think anyone wants to try and specify exactly what differentiates a TW from a 'cis' man claiming to be a woman.

In the immortal words of Battery Sergeant Major Williams:

Scarlet Blake was identifying as trans since the age of 12. Andrew Miller had been dressing as a woman for years. I wouldn't want to be alone with either of them.

Except at the point where he threatens to bite a guard’s fingers off and then swallows a pen - –there’s a flicker of sanity in the writer’s brain and Scott becomes a “he”.

He's no loss to society. Saves us residents of Scotland having to pay to keep him locked up.

It's changed to "they" now, all the "she"s gone. Take a look.