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JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again

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DayAndAge · 27/02/2024 08:20

How the metro can put out this tweet which effectively suggests a woman shouldn't be allowed to speak is beyond me. Shocked but not surprised. Comments are heartening though, as is the ratio.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
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Helleofabore · 07/03/2024 17:46

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 05/03/2024 08:23

Where on the thread was that mentioned? Or are you doing that weird thing again where you think everybody knows everything all of the time just because you yourself do? 🙄
No, that's not OK either bore.

Gosh.... nothing to say Falafels?

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2024 21:00

There's a new thread just popped up about a new tweet, I'd link to it but I can't be arsed.

"The word ‘transphobic’, as used here, does not mean an irrational fear or dislike of trans people. It means refusing to use gender identity ideology’s jargon, refusing to parrot its slogans, refusing to accept that sex doesn't matter when it comes to sport and single-sex spaces, refusing to believe a bearded heterosexual man becomes a lesbian when he declares himself one, and refusing to believe an abusive, misogynistic male is a woman because he likes to wear mini-dresses and pout in selfies.

Like every other gender critical person I know, I believe everyone should be free to express themselves however they wish, dress however they please, call themselves whatever they want, sleep with any consenting adult who wishes to sleep with them, and that trans-identified people should have the same protections regarding employment, housing, freedom of speech and personal safety every other citizen is entitled to.

But this isn’t nearly enough for the dominant strain of trans activism, which asserts that unless freedom of speech is removed from dissenters, unless trans-identified men are permitted to strip away women’s rights, with particular reference to single sex spaces like rape crisis centres, prison cells, hospital wards, changing rooms and public bathrooms, until we all bow down to their neo-religion, accept their pseudo-scientific claims and embrace their circular reasoning, trans people are more oppressed, and more at risk, than any other group in society.

This is nonsense. 99.9% of the world knows it's nonsense. The emperor is naked. He might be wearing lipstick, but his balls are swinging in plain sight. "

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
GailBlancheViola · 07/03/2024 21:17

Never a truer word spoken (or written). Bullseye from JKR.

RedToothBrush · 07/03/2024 23:32

Its been a long road, but to see people publicly say that is really important and I suspect means a hell of a lot to a whole bunch of people directly impacted by the extremes of this ideology.

It is NOT just about being polite. Its a neo-religion where non-believers are heretics who must be shunned and punished. They must be publicly shamed.

And yet what they say and do goes against the articles of faith of 'kindness', 'respect', 'inclusivity', being 'true to yourself', to 'be liberated from stereotypes', to be 'free from sex discrimination'. I could go on.

Its none of these things. It is about the power and control of others; particularly women. Its about demands and be unwilling to listen to the word no.

If it were about liberal values, I'd be happy. Its not true though.

And the saddest bit for me is knowing that if this is a cult, the unravelling of it will be unpleasant. For those caught in the midst of it, it will be catatrophic. We shoul be aware of how cults collaspe and who is harmed by this - there are a lot of vulnerable people.

But this isn't down to gender critical women. This is down to the weight of trying to maintain a lie which has grown so big that collaspes.

LizzieSiddal · 07/03/2024 23:38

This is nonsense. 99.9% of the world knows it's nonsense. The emperor is naked. He might be wearing lipstick, but his balls are swinging in plain sight.”

I want a badge with this on it.

Crankywiddershins · 08/03/2024 07:11

LizzieSiddal · 07/03/2024 23:38

This is nonsense. 99.9% of the world knows it's nonsense. The emperor is naked. He might be wearing lipstick, but his balls are swinging in plain sight.”

I want a badge with this on it.

Just "The Emperor is naked" would be enough. Those who know (most of twix and women here) would know, and anyone who didn't get the reference would remain ignorant. It could be our secret terf club sign.

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 09:01

I saw screenshots of that Byline guy losing his mind, calling JKR a cunt ("journalistic integrity") and I thought they must be fake so I had a look.

They're not.

Lion400 · 08/03/2024 09:16

Crankywiddershins · 08/03/2024 07:11

Just "The Emperor is naked" would be enough. Those who know (most of twix and women here) would know, and anyone who didn't get the reference would remain ignorant. It could be our secret terf club sign.

True. The meaning is clear.. The thing I don’t like about it is that it refers to emperor.

These rabid angry little men are turgid inadequate dweebs, anything but all powerful rulers.

I suppose you could say emperors in their own minds. Actually. Oh yes it works now..

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 09:20

Lion400 · 08/03/2024 09:16

True. The meaning is clear.. The thing I don’t like about it is that it refers to emperor.

These rabid angry little men are turgid inadequate dweebs, anything but all powerful rulers.

I suppose you could say emperors in their own minds. Actually. Oh yes it works now..

I've always thought that part of the point was that the emperor may have power but he kind of fell into it, because he certainly isn't wise or clever enough to have earned it, and it isn't hard to make him look like the fool he is.

Lion400 · 08/03/2024 09:36

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 09:20

I've always thought that part of the point was that the emperor may have power but he kind of fell into it, because he certainly isn't wise or clever enough to have earned it, and it isn't hard to make him look like the fool he is.

True.. he was a fool and so are they of course.

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 12:42

This is really good to see.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/03/2024 12:43

I saw screenshots of that Byline guy losing his mind, calling JKR a cunt ("journalistic integrity") and I thought they must be fake so I had a look.

Not only just a cunt, a "putrid" cunt.

lechiffre55 · 08/03/2024 12:47

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 09:20

I've always thought that part of the point was that the emperor may have power but he kind of fell into it, because he certainly isn't wise or clever enough to have earned it, and it isn't hard to make him look like the fool he is.

Can I just add my IW (2p) into this.
I think there's one very important element that's being overlooked and is more relevant than ever in our context of the emperors new clothes. The number of people going along with the group think because they are too afraid to stand out. The need to conform to the crowd out of fear even if you don't believe what the crowd as a whole believes. Peer pressure. On top of that add in an element of some people with mass delusion, a false belief shared by a large group of people. Some people probably genuinely believe in gender woowoo.

The narcissistic Emperor is fooled/tricked. The yes men around the Emperor say yes and flatter him. It just spreads outwards from there. No one wants to be the odd one out. The thing is at some point a child not in thrall points out the obvious, and the whole crowd bursts out laughing. The Emperor is embarassed in front of everyone.
Given that folktale is almost 200 years old and based on a story almost 700 years old, this is clearly not new human behaviour. Otherwise intelligent people will act like idiots under the right circumstances.
I genuinely think we are at the stage in the folk story of the child pointing out the obvious, and realisation starting to set in to the crowd.

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 12:50

Warming the cockles of my black, shrivelled heart, this is.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
Froodwithatowel · 08/03/2024 12:50

RedToothBrush · 07/03/2024 23:32

Its been a long road, but to see people publicly say that is really important and I suspect means a hell of a lot to a whole bunch of people directly impacted by the extremes of this ideology.

It is NOT just about being polite. Its a neo-religion where non-believers are heretics who must be shunned and punished. They must be publicly shamed.

And yet what they say and do goes against the articles of faith of 'kindness', 'respect', 'inclusivity', being 'true to yourself', to 'be liberated from stereotypes', to be 'free from sex discrimination'. I could go on.

Its none of these things. It is about the power and control of others; particularly women. Its about demands and be unwilling to listen to the word no.

If it were about liberal values, I'd be happy. Its not true though.

And the saddest bit for me is knowing that if this is a cult, the unravelling of it will be unpleasant. For those caught in the midst of it, it will be catatrophic. We shoul be aware of how cults collaspe and who is harmed by this - there are a lot of vulnerable people.

But this isn't down to gender critical women. This is down to the weight of trying to maintain a lie which has grown so big that collaspes.

So good it needs repeating.

lechiffre55 · 08/03/2024 12:55

Crankywiddershins · 08/03/2024 07:11

Just "The Emperor is naked" would be enough. Those who know (most of twix and women here) would know, and anyone who didn't get the reference would remain ignorant. It could be our secret terf club sign.

If you want a secret shibboleth sign for the TERF club might I suggest "Not Wheeshting" T shirts.
Or if you want to be a lot more blatant.
"Unweeshted adult human female" - You get 2 for 1 out of this T shirt :)

IcakethereforeIam · 08/03/2024 13:00

I got a wren badge 😎

As an aside, isn't Kaolin something you take for diarrhoea?

SamW98 · 08/03/2024 13:02

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 12:50

Warming the cockles of my black, shrivelled heart, this is.

She really is a class act. IW should take a look at how a true lady conducts herself and learn

BezMills · 08/03/2024 13:03

killing the lad with kindness there!

My cynicism lobe has just piped up "he got told to apologise and make it look contrite, so that his employer doesn't look bad (and doesn't have to immediately fire his arse)"

The 'I had a breakdown' is a fine ad-lib
(yeah bro that's not even how you spell meltdown)

viques · 08/03/2024 13:07

NonPlayerCharacter · 07/03/2024 09:41

If IW were a woman, this deranged, long term behaviour would be laughed out of the room. It would be dismissed everywhere as crazy, demented and hysterical (because it is) and blamed on menopause and hormones. Literally the only reason anyone takes it remotely seriously is because they know IW isn't a woman. I'm not sure if it's a catch-22, an irony or something else, I just know it's fucked up.

Maybe that is the answer to explain IWs behaviour.

“ I am a woman, I am a middle aged woman, so as a middle aged woman I am at the absolute mercy of my menopausal hormone imbalance, so if I appear brain fogged, irrational and out of control it is not because I am an an abusive foul mouthed mysogynistic racist man it is because I am a genuine woman going through my menopause. I told you all I was a woman, now you have to believe me because I am cosplaying a genuine woman doing what all genuine women do. Pass me the gin and the HRT patches.”

NonPlayerCharacter · 08/03/2024 13:09

I think his apology is genuine. It doesn't sound forced, he added things like respecting her and heart emojis that he didn't need to say. And while I liked seeing JKR laying a well-deserved supernova smackdown, I did start to feel bad for him because he really was getting it from all sides and was clearly ill equipped for it.

She's just raised his profile to the stratosphere so maybe he'll thank her!

yourhairiswinterfire · 08/03/2024 13:11

Fair play to him for apologising.

The difference in their reactions is interesting.

Caolan says he snapped, acted unprofessionally and started hurling misogynistic insults at JKR because he'd had a pile on and an intense day. One day.

JKR has been piled on for years, been sent thousands of death and rape threats, been blamed for the murder of a child, compared to the worst paedophile the UK has ever seen, had weirdos turn up at her home and had to increase her security because of all of this, yet the 'worst' thing she's ever done after years and years of pile ons and intense days is call a man (who has been harassing her) 'a man'.

viques · 08/03/2024 13:22

fromorbit · 07/03/2024 10:37

Now Willoughby is the official representative of trans UK a lot of pink/blue washing is needed. Luckily PNews is here with a big can of paint. This article is doing its best.

Pretty hilarious. Like trying to dress up the Big Brother appearance as anything, but a trainwreck. This wasn't because the UK public hate alt gender types - remember Nadia Almada won Big Brother in 2004. It was because Willoughby is an awful person who was sexist and hated other contestants.

Also avoiding discussing how Willoughby, a Trump/Farage supporter, agreed with the social conservative take on GB News on everything except trans issues.

Of course the long catalogue of racism, sexism doesn't get mentioned.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240306121423/www.thepinknews.com/2024/03/06/india-willoughby-jk-rowling" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20240306121423/www.thepinknews.com/2024/03/06/india-willoughby-jk-rowling/

Only PN could think that calling Martina Navratilova a “lesbian former tennis champion” was somehow an insult!

Lion400 · 08/03/2024 13:22

SamW98 · 08/03/2024 13:02

She really is a class act. IW should take a look at how a true lady conducts herself and learn

😂 ‘a true lady’!!

Christ don’t be using inflammatory terms like that 😂

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