BBC News does not inform readers cat killer and murderer Scarlett Blake is transgender in this article. I intend to complain to ofcom. These are not our crimes.

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Has anyone seen this recent article on the transgender (trans woman) Scarlett Blake who was sentenced to 24 years today for murdering a man. Blake also killed a cat. Pls see this recent article from bbc news. BBC news puts nowhere in article that Blake is transgender. Uses pronouns ‘she’ and refers to Blake as a woman.

bbc article here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68401335

These are not our crimes. I am reporting the omission of the fact Blake is transgender to Ofcom. I wonder if anyone is thinking the same (about reporting to ofcom, here is the link: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints )

Try reading the thread. He doesn't have a lady gender, he wasn't assigned anything at birth. He's a man. A sadistic killer. Not a woman. Not female and he never has been.

Have you read the entire thread?

If it doesn't matter then why bother to report it at all?

Either it doesn't matter or it is important enough to lie about.

Or: why bother making this comment when you haven’t bothered reading beyond the OP? (Rhetorical question)

I think it is an unfortunate expression. I think if you were to replace ‘male’ with any other characteristic you would see why even if it was statistically correct.

It's the exact equivalent of a white person committing a heinous crime but it being reported as being done by a black person. Would you for one moment be surprised if the black community said 'this was not our crime'? Would you criticise them for wanting to set the record straight?
The only way in which it's not analagous, of course, is that white people who 'identify as black' are quite rightly vilified rather than the press colluding with them.

Criminal justice and criminology actually means something, so does sex.
Great to see the customary faux naivety attempting to derail.

"These are not our crimes" is a way of expressing that these crimes statistically belong to the Asian race class.

I would not be ok with that statement. And it is the phrasing I am saying is off. Not the sentiment that he should be labelled as a man.

That's not what anyone is saying and you know it.

Blake is specifically being referred to as being a woman. He isn't one.
People are saying 'look at the rise in violent women! Women do it too!'.

Nope #thiswasnotourcrime.

I've found the article (from the Telegraph) that I referred to upthread

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/20/bbc-finds-itself-guilty-of-serious-editorial-misconduct/

https://archive.ph/nJzhM

I don't know but it might be a useful reference in constructing a complaint.

That's not what anyone is saying and you know it.

It's the angle many TRAs on social media seem to have decided to go with.

No one is saying anything about the "Asian race class" 🤔
Not our crimes is a protest that this crime has been repeatedly reported as being committed by a woman, when it's actually a man.
But I think you know that.

I personally don't think there's any point whatsoever in complaining to the BBC, or Ofcom, or even Parliament. They're all just different organs of the state, and this whole policy comes right from the top, it's not "incompetence".

The Guardian and Independent aren't exactly honest these days either. Fair Play For Women had to send solicitor's letters to the Indy because the Indy lied about some research that FPFW did into TW prisoners that turned out to be correct when MoJ published the official figures.

The Guardian and Independent have their faults but they don't descend into the sewer like the sun and Mail

Not Our Crimes and the hashtag #Notourcrimes have been used to point out when crimes, usually violent and/or sexual, are described in the media as having been committed by a “woman,” who is actually a man, for at least 5 years to my knowledge.

But, as others have said, you know that full well.

There aren't "Asian crimes". There are "male crimes". I suspect that you are hinting at white racists disowning corrosive liquid throwing? Your analogy is bullshit for two reasons:

1. White men have thrown corrosive liquids going back to Victorian times if not before before. It was usually sulphur acid, at the time known as "vitriol". Tarring and feathering as a comparable burn-injuring crime goes back even further.
2. It's not Asian women, nor women from any other racial group, who commit most corrosive liquid throwings. It's men.

The Guardian and Independent aren't exactly honest these days either. Fair Play For Women had to send solicitor's letters to the Indy because the Indy lied about some research that FPFW did into TW prisoners that turned out to be correct when MoJ published the official figures.

I contributed towards that letter! <proud>

That depends on what you class as "the sewer".

The Guardian, when cheerleading for "Marie Dean", the poor hard-done-by TW languishing on hunger strike in a men's prison to protest "her" placement in the male estate and lack of straighteners, completely failed to mention that "she" is in there partly for committing lewd acts with the knickers of teen girls stolen from the houses "she" burgled. If you didn't notice that the sentence handed down to this burglar was unusually long, you wouldn't think to search for the name and discover that "she" is Gary Dean Marie.

If anyone wants women to avoid using expressions they deem 'unfortunate' such as 'not our crimes' then maybe they could put their efforts into persuading the press not to attribute crimes committed by males as being done by a woman?

Nobody is recording crimes incorrectly by race though. White crime isn't being recorded as Black crime in official statistics. Black crime isn't being recorded as Asian crime etc.

The entire establishment has been colluding for some years now to record male crimes as female. This is a known thing they have deliberately done and they have done it knowing just how much of an impact it has.

They are lying to us and corrupting data - data that gets used plan, fund or defund all kinds of programmes and initiatives around offending.

It's the data researchers and scientists have to use which is now corrupted at source. Possibly forever unless a massive data clean up is embarked on going back years.

It's skewing public perception of female behaviour. Leading people to believe many women are violent and sexual deviants on a par with men when the reality is women that are like that are exceedingly rare.

This is all without even touching on the horrific reality of women prisoners who have been locked up with no escape from these men in female prisons.

All this over time is harmful to women on many levels. These are absolutely not our crimes and we should be free to say so over and over again, as many times as necessary until it sinks in with the idiots perpetuating this corrupt and misogynistic insanity.

And I think you know the point I am making.

I stated in my first post the OP had a point. You think this is a great slogan to express that then go for it. I am allowed my opinion that I don’t think it is a great slogan and pointed out why. I would suggest if one person who agrees with the OP thinks it is a dreadful slogan then you are alienating a lot of other people who agree with you.

The problem with slogans that simplify things too much and are catchy is that they can be used by other people who may have diametrically opposed views to yours and then weaken your whole argument. So ‘my body my choice’ - great. Then the anti vaccination right took it up in America and, in some instances, by the trans lobby.

It is not a hill I am going to die on though. I have made my point. I doubt I am not going to convince you it is a shit slogan that actually is pretty nasty any more than you will be able to convince me that it is a great slogan that will bring everyone to your point of view.

Yes.

Who defends the male murderer. He is a man, born man, murdered as a man, depraved and yet says he's a woman and the handmaiden's defend his 'belief' he is a woman. What about the victim. The male murderer is a sick man, he is not innocent. He is NOT female. Call HIM out on this lie.

I’ve complained to BBC. Thinking of writing to my MP
I’m 🤬🤬🤬🤬😡🤬

There'd be no point complaining to my MP. He thinks this man belongs to a poor, marginalised minority.

Someone else's crime is never "our crime" regardless of sex, nationality, or whatever. Otherwise why not claim, say, Lucy Letby's activities as "Our Crimes"?