BBC News does not inform readers cat killer and murderer Scarlett Blake is transgender in this article. I intend to complain to ofcom. These are not our crimes.

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Has anyone seen this recent article on the transgender (trans woman) Scarlett Blake who was sentenced to 24 years today for murdering a man. Blake also killed a cat. Pls see this recent article from bbc news. BBC news puts nowhere in article that Blake is transgender. Uses pronouns ‘she’ and refers to Blake as a woman.

bbc article here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68401335

These are not our crimes. I am reporting the omission of the fact Blake is transgender to Ofcom. I wonder if anyone is thinking the same (about reporting to ofcom, here is the link: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints )

“Ministry of Justice figures show at least 181 of the 244 transgender inmates, more than 74%, are in jail for crimes including rape, forcing children into having sex, grievous bodily harm and robbery” - an important statistic that presumably the Trans Fans would prefer was obfuscated by recording such male crimes as female. .

Great Post @WaitingforSpring24

This initially was reported on the bbc without any gender, they had followed thames valleys example. The comments were interestingly pointed, they (in)corrected it later to say she.

No. Pronouns are not a 'right' that is dependent on good behaviour. Society needs to use accurate information to function. Gaslighting anyone by deliberately using descriptors we know to be factually incorrect is damaging and confusing.

As is crystal clear from this thread, the sort of person who is completely high on their own Right-Side-Of-History Beeeeee-Kind Good-Person obfuscatory look-over-there-at-that-squirrel whataboutery word-cloud Righteous Farts.

And there's just something - can't quite think what - that tells me those transgender inmates (other than the rapists of course) aren't the female born ones.

The Independent’s story today doesn’t mention that ‘she’ is male until the 21st paragraph. How many people would read that far?

Also, At the time, Blake had been in an online relationship with a woman, Ashlynn Bell, in the US, with the two frequently discussing gore, murder and strangulation together.

It doesn’t even mention that his American friend is also male. Just two ‘women’ who enjoy random violence.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/scarlet-blake-oxford-jailed-jorge-martin-carreno-b2502991.html

No wonder we read that there’s been an upsurge in violent crime by women over recent years. With male criminals routinely recorded as female if they want to be, the statistics are useless.

"How about when it comes to sadistic killers and rapists we forgo the polite fiction that humans can change sex and go with the very accurate 'man'?"

@Girlontherailreplacementbusservice I don't disagree with this at all. These ridiculous articles are being written because 'we' took the mis-step of allowing the legal fiction that someone can change sex, even though we all know that is impossible to do. But that is where we now are, and until that changes, we need to find ways of engaging with the general public about it.

Thank you, @Peskysquirrel - I think Helen Joyce uses a similar construction, so we're in good company.

Not sure if it's been posted before, but this link starts with A woman.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68360122

I've reported it to the BBC as inaccurate

No, I do not know the point you are making. That is because you are trying to divert and obfuscate the issue by coming on here trying to claim "not our crimes" refers to Asian people.

You seem to be telling women to sit down and shut up and not use this slogan because other groups might appropriate it. No. We will not shut up. If others hijack the slogan that is up to them. Context is everything. Google "not our crimes" and look what comes up. That will tell you all you need to know about context and how this slogan is being used. I don't see any "weakened argument" there.

Here's your real point. You are clearly male. You do not like the slogan "not our crimes" because you feel indignant as if somehow you personally are being blamed for all crimes committed by males.

I base this on the fact that you said "it implies that the crimes of an individual are the responsibility of or ‘owned by’ people who share a characteristic with that individual".

No, it does not imply any 'responsibility' in that way. No more than I am 'responsible' for Lucy Letby's crimes because she's female and so am I. But I accept 100% that she belongs to the same sex class as me. I don't feel personally blamed by that fact.

Male violence is a big problem in society. Men need to step up and address it. Not get personally butt-hurt because they feel they're being got at. As the 10th rule of misogyny says, "the worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad".

So we will keep on using our supposed "shit slogan that actually is pretty nasty", thanks. It's actually proved to be very effective over the past few days because it's highlighted the problem of language manipulation in the media. And if some men don't like it, well they need to deal with that.

Why wasn't he/she detained for the cat crime? That is absolutely horrendous , especially as it lead to another horrible murder.

There's a detail in the Independent which would have made me rage if I had any respect left for the publication. Fortunately, I lost that years ago. The bottom of the article, links for more information categories

Sorry, I don't know why it's so big

Yes it is horrendous. Studies have shown that people who start by being cruel to animals often go on to commit worse crimes. Same with "flashing" which used to be (often still is) treated as a bit of a joke, but has come to be recognised as a precursor to worse sexual crimes.
Problem is you can't arrest someone for something they 'might' do, I guess.

That Unherd article is spot on. I had no idea the beeb had so many trans workers but a lot of things are making sense now. We do seem to have been bombarded with trans issues whilst being told repeatedly they are a tiny % of population. I used to love Married at First Sight but the man there talking about how his 'vagina' was better than all of the women's made me feel sick and I've not looked at trans the same way since - I actually didn't think I cared much either way before hearing him going on. They don't do themselves any favours shoving it down everyone's throats but I suspect they like riling people up as part of the fun/confrontation. Again a very male thing.

Yes, the Unherd article is very good. As are some of the comments below it!

I saw this story for the first time on BBC News at 10 last night. Although they referred to this person as a 'she' throughout, they did make it clear that this was a man who now identified as a woman, but would spend their sentence in a male prison. So I did give a little cheer!

I agree, I think some of the problems we have with the media reporting on this issue is the fact that many young people who buy this bullshit go in to journalism and media jobs - not to report the news, but to push their own agenda. They seem to see it as their duty to be a campaigner rather than an employee. Rules and truth be damned, they are activists first and foremost.

If they were heavily pushing some other form of ideology it would be rightly called out as blatant bias and unprofessional, but this issue seems to get a free pass. Added to that you have senior level management who seem unable or unwilling to deal with them properly, afraid of the fallout. Just look at the Guardian to see an organisation seemingly tearing itself apart trying to please everyone.

I base this on the fact that you said "it implies that the crimes of an individual are the responsibility of or ‘owned by’ people who share a characteristic with that individual".

No, it does not imply any 'responsibility' in that way. No more than I am 'responsible' for Lucy Letby's crimes because she's female and so am I. But I accept 100% that she belongs to the same sex class as me. I don't feel personally blamed by that fact.

Absolutely right. It is not your responsibility that Lucy Letby killed babies. But then you say:

Male violence is a big problem in society. Men need to step up and address it. Not get personally butt-hurt because they feel they're being got at.

But the violence of some males is the responsibility of all males. Can you not see the contradiction in what you posted?

This is a completely pointless argument. As I said I agreed with the original poster. I agree 100% with their sentiment. If you like look at my other posts on similar issues you will see I have very strong views of the trans movement and the harm it is doing. I don't like the phrase (I am not the only one who posted they don't like it) and explained why.

I have complained myself numerous times to the BBC on how they report trans issues and how they seem to bombard us with selected stories all the time. So just today they had a big news story on the front page of the website about a non-binary identifying teen who was beaten up and bullied by three girls in a school toilet in America and died a while later (although it is not really clear whether the kicking was the sole cause of death or medical incompetence). Why is this story on the front page of the BBC? There are 70 people murdered every day in the US, so why choose this one? Yesterday a man was in court for stabbing to death two men in Halifax a couple of months ago, but this story only made the local BBC website. The bias in the BBC goes far deeper than just the pro nouns they have used for a murderer (which is not to minimise that) with the selective reporting and editorial oversight they have being far harder to spot unless you really look for it.

You're right. It's a courtesy, not a right, and others shouldn't be compelled to honour it.

But the violence of some males is the responsibility of all males. Can you not see the contradiction in what you posted?

The only people who can fix male violence is men. Violent men do not listen to women. Men need to normalise asking for support, talking about bad feelings instead of using their fists, and walking away from a fight.

A substantial proportion of female-perpetrated murders are a woman with post-partum psychosis killing her child. Women are already campaigning to improve detection and treatment of that condition to prevent these murders. Men need to do similar for each other.

Has this been reported anywhere? I haven't seen any mention of this anywhere.

It’s going to be on Jeremy Vine show in Radio 2, concentrating in the male crime being reported as female, apparently.

I'll try to catch that on BBC 'Sounds' -if I can't catch it 'Live' . Thank you.

Edit : Is this today's show? Can't see any mention of this online for today.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13119563/amp/cat-killer-murder-oxford-transgender-victim-random-escort-called-police.html

Daily Mail article mentions it near the end of their article:

Blake was given puberty blockers when she was 17 and also received hormone treatment from the age of 18 after a referral to the Tavistock NHS gender clinic. She is still receiving hormone replacement therapy but has been kept in a Category A men’s prison.

Today's Jeremy Vine - Found it.. here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001whqp