Joe Lycett

[theDudesmummy]

I had never heard of this guy before today (I am not a fan of stand up comedy) but I do listen to the political podcast The Newsagents, and they had him on as a guest. He sounded like a sensible person until he suddenly started talking complete faux-naïve bollocks about the trans issue. Something about how how boring it would be if everyone in society was expected to be the same, or some such stuff, and therefore anyone who opposes trans rights is being "boring" as well as wrong. Anyone else hear that? Is this guy in general a TRA or just stupid?

I hadn't noticed any discussion of trans on The Newsagents up to now (but I don't listen religiously every day, just most days). I don't know where the presenters stand on this, if anywhere. I'm quite a fan of Emily Maitliss, I would really disappointed if she is captured.

Can’t stand him since he was on Alan Davies’ ‘As Yet Untitled’ saying that women didn’t seem to realise that he is bisexual which is a shame as he loves ‘smashing puss’

Lysett is a bitch. I know the people who employed him for the Qatar gig and he had zero issues working in the ME then. Didn’t question anything. Was just snarky and less than polite.

He couldn’t give a flying fuck about the rights of women either.

Well, calling people boring because they reject gender ideology is pretty stupid though, wouldn't you agree?

He has talked recently about falling in love and having a girlfriend.

He's not gay though. He has a girlfriend.

@AttaThat @theDudesmummy As far as I'm aware - and I do listen regularly - the News Agents have not discussed the trans debate. However, Emily Maitlis did upset Pink News so there is hope... https://www.thepinknews.com/2019/12/06/bbc-newsnight-emily-maitlis-accused-breaching-impartiality-transgender-women-bbc-bias/

I love Emily. I wonder if she’s here somewhere? I think she did an excellent report a while ago on the Tavistock 🤔

I get the impression that Emily is TERF adjacent but not a hardliner.

@delphi13

Could you link me to where he's talked about a girlfriend? I'd be interested to read/ listen to that.

Thanks.

Good news about Emily it seems

He's not gay though. He has a girlfriend.

Where's the evidence of that?

Really?

Why shouldn’t Joe Lycett be pansexual, why do you think he’s just saying this to be on a bandwagon? If he is attracted to people who identify as male, female or non-binary, then he is pansexual.

Leaving aside that this board doesn’t typically believe in NB as a concept - fine - millions of people sincerely do, and so why do you doubt Joe L is one of them?

Pansexual is bisexual with the arrogance to believe that everyone else is attracted to others in the same way as you and if they aren't they should be.

I don't have a lot of time for it. It's unattractive as a personality trait funnily enough. It pretends to be open minded but in practice is really closed minded.

Sex matters to a lot of people for lots of different reasons. The ability to have children, the mutuality of the same sex. Liking the physicality in a particular way. And so many more. The inability to see and understand this, is tone deaf.

She wouldn’t be allowed to be too openly hard line in her NN role but she’s doing a good job. Her thoughts as shown above are quite clear.

I’ve found the Newsagents to be really one sided on the trans subject, whenever it comes up it’s the ‘most vulnerable’ shtick. Listening to Lycet and Goodall it struck me that it’s just a way for middle class white people to class themselves as a ‘minority’ when he said he’s amplifying trans and non -binary voices in his show, god forbid he helps genuinely vulnerable people, much easier to find a man who is non-binary and stick him in to tick the diversity box!

Being attracted to personality traits is fine, none of my beeswax, we probably all have traits we find attractive and less attractive in a partner.
Pansexual seems like considerably spicier than youw bisexual. Also fine, shrug.

The confidence to believe that women aren't interested because they think hes gay!

This is really grim. I wonder how any woman who’s ever had the pleasure (or not…) of going to bed with him feels about his use of such dehumanising and violent language? SMASHING??

I picture a Grant Mitchell-esque thug shouting, “I’m gonna SMASH your face in!” Nasty.

I've enjoyed Joe Lycett's comedy in the past and am disappointed to see some of the things he's said...growing paedos and "smashing puss" being two of the worst examples above 😡.

His comedy is "progressive and edgy" and, since it's currently "progressive and edgy" to say horribly misogynistic things, I'm sadly not surprised that he's said them.

It's convenient for him to close his eyes and ears to the debate surrounding gender ideology and pretend it's all about people not liking other people who are different to them. As pp's have said, it doesn't affect him in any way so why should he care - in fact, if he did start to care then it WOULD affect him due to 'getting cancelled'.

Additionally, as with many of the progressive edgy "leftist" men these days, listening to the boring "old type" of woman (you know, the ones with a vagina) is really uncool. Joe Lycett has an image to protect.

I stopped listening to the Newsagents podcast when I got fed up with hearing their own views on subjects. I'm really not interested in what they personally think.

Now you see, that's what I actually like about The Newsagents. You can get just news from lots of places but I like hearing people's personal takes and ideas/responses. I hadn't heard them touch on the trans issue before though. (As I said, I listen often, but not every day).

I stopped listening to the Newsagents podcast when I got fed up with hearing their own views on subjects. I'm really not interested in what they personally think.

The few times I've listened I've found them self satisfied and tedious. I can't imagine having a misogynist twat like Joe Lycett on would have improved that.