The Ladies pond again

[IcakethereforeIam]

Trying to have a vote to make it women only again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/22/transgender-women-ban-kenwood-ladies-pond-hampstead-heath/

https://archive.ph/xbIsK paywall dodge

I'm not holding my breath.

So the experiences of women being assaulted by men in prison are boring?

It's boring when women who have been raped and can't be around men are denied female only group therapy?

You're bored by the disabled teenage girl who is forced to have a man see to her toileting needs?

What about the lesbians who were told by Stonewall that they are sexual racists for denying men their bodies? Bore the arse off you, do they?

Oh wait, maybe these incarcerated women, raped women, disabled girls and lesbians should be subjected to therapy, to get over themselves?

Lest they bore you.

Oh dear lord. It's actually a protected belief.

Under the equality act. Quite specifically.

Believing that sex is binary and that it matters, is now legally protected.

I'm sorry for your prejudice.

And now, according to your ideology, there is absolutely nothing to stop men opening the door and walking in to women's only spaces, where they are vulnerable, undressing, etc. In fact, they are encouraged to.

Women and girls are now cowed into accepting any and all men. And, according to you, if they don't want to, they need therapy?

You saw the photos above?

There is absolutely zero criteria for men who wants to access women. None. (Not that there should be, but in any case, it's zero).

That's your ideology.

I was very interested to hear about the experiences of users of the women's bathing pond and surroundings. It gave me a real sense of how important the space is, and why. I fully support having it exclusively female, of course.

It does sound like it serves an important purpose for some women, Bez. No wonder perverted and predatory men and woman haters are so determined to enter.

I stayed nearby a while back, and having experienced the wonderful freedom of an exclusively, all-female space before, where there was no shame in having a normal, women’s body, I was sorely tempted to give it a try. I only didn’t because I was on holiday with my husband and son.

I can say though, that having experienced that all-woman, no body shame situation, it would 100% have been ruined if a man had been arrogant enough to claim he belonged there and invaded. The women who would give that away with no consideration for what they are stealing from other women are dick panderers and just as selfish as the men who perv.

PP82 · Yesterday 15:20

• AlisonDonut · Yesterday 15:15

+ + What about the woman raped, on film, in a hospital and the NHS said it couldn't have happened because there was no man on the ward? + +

I'd be interested in some more details or a link to verify that story.

For someone so confident, you seem to be remarkably uninformed on the subject on which you claim to be an expert.

it’s all deeply weird, this fetishisation of female-bodiedness

Yeah, you got that bang on.

But it's not women doing the fetishisation.

Bingo.

'Boring' seems to be an in word. Joe Lycett seems to be keen on it from the thread about him. Apparently he loves to be a disruptor.

Anarchist at heart?

Is this anarchy now?

“incoherent pseudo anarchistic goat wank”

🤣

The only thing missing is "Freedom for Tooting" and I wouldn't be surprised to see that appear

Say what?

Men made this loophole in the first place.

Male men and male doctors. Male activists with the odd woman on testosterone. Male billionaires funded lawyers to write rulebooks on how to do it. Gay men were meeting to discuss LGB and hot hijacked by male AGPs who the gay men felt sorry for.

Everyone blames feminists but this whole shit show was driven by males. And their urges.

I had no idea it would be so colourful.

But then again my favourite colour is sludge.

It certainly matters knowing whose body to exploit the fertility of.

“incoherent pseudo anarchistic goat wank”

Nailed it.

I think I saw them supporting Discharge, in 1989...

Yes. You are.
Own it.

I definitely do believe in Freedom for Tooting. Tooting holds a special place in my heart, and Robert Lindsay could wander in to my changing room any time he liked! (Early crush.) I am typing one handed. The other hand is holding my phone. Think that's how most people type now.

Umm. I'm not an expert. I've said time and time again that I'm not, and never been a TRA, whatever you think that is. Don't have to be to know right from wrong and counter your vile slurs.

Is it a slur to say that a person on the woman's ward in a hospital who rapes another patient is an man? (Remembering that rape in British law requires a penis) Really? Or is it the truth.
You are so blinded by your belief that somehow saying 'I'm a woman' makes a man a woman that you can't bring yourself to believe the countless examples of trans women being exactly like other men and so you dismiss them as slurs and stories.
They aren't they are truths. Uncomfortable truths to those who like to believe in lady essence and wrong bodies and be kind but truths none the less.

'Right' in this case being sacrificing women to bizarre misogynistic illusions, and 'wrong' being saying no to male people when they want to exclude and harm women, or stating reality.

This is batshit. It's absolutely nuttier than a fruit cake.

If I was raped on a women's ward in a hospital by someone identifying as a woman I would be absolutely clear that that person was a man, a violent man. And I would absolutely refuse to be told by anyone to call that man, with a penis, a woman. What worse insult to my injury than to be asked by anyone not to hurt their feelings by misgendering them.