The Ladies pond again

[IcakethereforeIam]

Trying to have a vote to make it women only again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/22/transgender-women-ban-kenwood-ladies-pond-hampstead-heath/

https://archive.ph/xbIsK paywall dodge

I'm not holding my breath.

I'm all for acknowledging women's oppression and smashing the patriarchy, but that is deranged.

This is a bit rich given everything you've said on this thread.

not to mention non lethal and sexual violence

so what your saying is cause the nazis murdered jews and slavery existed the oppression of women is aok?

I'm well aware but you're being simplistic and oppression takes many forms. White women in particular have many types of privilege and we all know what happens when they leverage their supposed fragility to demonise and criminalise others.

None of this is to deny the reality of sexual violence or to diminish women's experiences.

do we? do we all know what happens? or is that some bullshit that was made up recently to justify the unjustifyible

everything you have said is to deminish womens experiances

No. Just that to claim that you are part of the most oppressed group in every society ever, and therefore can never possibly be guilty of oppressing others, is false.

and oppression

I'm thinking of how white women's fragility has been weaponised against black men. But if you draw any parallels on here, that makes you a racist. That accusation incoming...

@PP82 you can Google it.

not what I said tho
overall through human history women have been the most oppressed. there have been times when other groups have also been serverly oppressed, sometimes even exceding the oppression of women.
but overal women have been and still are the most oppresse group in humankind
gender idology would be a side note in a joke book if not for the fact women dont matter in our society

im not white so by your logic i literally cant be racist

also im not racist

Seems to work for transactivists.

I never said you were. I said I recognised some of the tactics by the GC in terms of weaponising white women's supposed fragility as similar to those used against black men, particularly in the USA but in other places too.

bullshit

saying humans cant change sex has nothing to do with holding all men accountable for their rapes (if they have raped anyone obvs)

nothing you come out with stands up to even the most superficial scrutiny.
its a house of cards held together with mysogny

Saying that, while arguing for men to access the tiny number of spaces reserved for women, really is the chef's kiss of hypocrisy.

It really is.

Being oppressed does not give the right to […] exclude others.

What never? So is your argument that women can’t exclude men from their spaces?

This whole argument is based on the ludicrous premise that a man loses all the privileges of being male when he chooses to claim that he is a woman. The epitome of this was the TW judge comparing their situation to Rosa Parks. Do me a fucking favour.

that judge said gender was biological, but a poster on here says its was not biological?
Im confused, is the idology that gender is biological or is not biological?

maybe its non binary, its both and neither.
not binding adhearents to making sense

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

I don't think gender is biological. I have no idea what others think. Apart from some general LGBT stuff I've never been involved in any trans activism. I'm just in a discussion on a website. Opinions are my own and all that.

Do you really think that everyone who disagrees with you is part of some centrally coordinated effort?

Ooh yes I think that happened when I used to swim there.
I wanted to take my teenage dds there when in London but I am not taking them while it allows in men, or according to pp men who are not men as they want to be women.