The Ladies pond again

[IcakethereforeIam]

Trying to have a vote to make it women only again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/22/transgender-women-ban-kenwood-ladies-pond-hampstead-heath/

https://archive.ph/xbIsK paywall dodge

I'm not holding my breath.

I don’t know a single woman who would casually say this:

“it has contributed to my view that you normalise and even fetishise trauma. Most of my friends have been raped or sexually assaulted multiple times. It is sadly quite normal in our society.”

Given the fetishisation of rape and sexual assault shown by certain males (I’m thinking particularly of a man who, having inveigled his way into rape crisis management, gratuitously mentioned women experiencing orgasm during rape) it seems quite possible that this post was not written by a woman acknowledging the propensity of violence against women, but rather by a man who is enjoying mentioning it, over and over.

But they have won and instead of dealing with it you are trying to shame women into being comfortable with men in a formerly women only space.

Just because you think you'll slay those demons by pretending to not be affected doesnt mean any other women can or should.

It was just fine as a mens, mixed and womens. It literally was as equitable as you can get. Ruined because men have to have it all and people similar to you think we should all leave our religions, get over our traumas and lump it.

How do you know that a woman isn't ogling you, or getting off on being naked in your presence?

I was naked in a communal changing room last weekend. Was I flashing the other women in there?

Brilliant. It's a while since we've had this one on TRA bingo.

woman aint gona hold me down and shove his cock in me risking disease and pregancy

You can't hang out with many teenagers if you think something being taught in schools means the kids are definitely on board. If his secondary school teacher told DS that night followed day, DS would ask for evidence.

Most teenagers think gender bolleaux is bullshit.

This thread is like going back in time to the FWR board of circa 2018/19

I acknowledge the prevalence of sexual violence in our society, therefore I must be a man?

Astonishing. This from a board where people talk about nothing but the possibility of sexual violence all day every day.

your getting off on denying womans voices in their own oppression.
thats what makes people think you a man

Other than gender identity, the only protected characteristic that is not biological/determined by birth is religion. But religious freedoms are not unlimited. You are free to adopt any faith you want but, if you believe (as some Christians do), that all Jews need to convert to Christianity, in order for Christ to return to Earth, you are not free to impose that belief on Jews, or insist that they comply your wishes.

I'm hoping for a clownfish appearance.

I worked with teenagers on a daily basis until a month ago. They had differing opinions on many things but I never heard any transphobia. If I had, I'd have dealt with it the same way I dealt with the odd bit of racism.

Exactly why you never heard valid questions, kids are not stupid

No I'm not. I'm just disagreeing with you. Being oppressed does not give the right to oppress or exclude others.

You aren’t “acknowledging the prevalence of sexual violence” you are exaggerating it whilst simultaneously pretending that you and your friends are fine with it.

If you aren’t a man, you’re perhaps a hyper-privileged young woman who is pretending.

What I’m fairly sure you’re not, is a mature woman who is perfectly okay with being sexually violated over and over and thinks other women should be like you and just get on with it, while abandoning any of the protections women fought so hard for.

yes, yes you absolutly are

It would be like me going on a disability forum and goading and flaunting my disregard for their issues

I considered promoting an inclusive environment part of my role. There are limits on free speech in most environments.

ah, and there we have it. comply to my bullshit or else.

how very masculine

How exactly would you deal with a teenage girl who said she didn't think people could change sex or was unhappy with boys pretending to be girls in female spaces because she felt vulnerable?

your ideology is a colonizers' ideology and by that nature is oppressive to the colonised - women

Should a wheelchair user be free to go on a disability forum and tell someone with a hearing impairment that they don't count as disabled and shouldn't be entitled to PIP?

Sometimes it takes a while but we get there eventually.

I dont even know what i am supposed to do with that bit of random unrelated whataboutery

That is normal in most working and educational environments. Should people be free to use racist language or make racist arguments at work or school?