Spain-woman sentenced to 6 months in prison after making 'transphobic' remarks towards male ex prostitute

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https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1760315313822769281?s=20

She was also fined Eu3850 and disqualified from holding employment in any profession in the fields of teaching or sports for 3 & 1/2 years

But I've always fought bigotry and prejudice and I'm not going to stop now.

Sure. You're the very model of empathy and compassion for others.

Sorry, just have a very low tolerance for those types of things.

I agree it’s doesn’t matter. We’re stuck with our biology but can wear what we like. We can go into whatever career we like. Being female no longer stops us being a doctor. Being make no longer stops us looking after our kids.

Gender is bollocks that tries to force us to behave differently according to our sex.

This.

I class it with Reiki. A way of processing the world that isn’t in any way magical, but which some people find helpful.

None of the trans people I have known personally have conformed to gender stereotypes in the slightest.

Why do you think they thought they were more like the opposite sex? Is it the ineffable woman essence?

https://deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/

The far right has just as much in common with gender ideology. Both believe in gender. Both centre men and neither allow women to be truly free.

Also ....It is not gender non conforming for an adult male to weaponise misogynist laws against women, to parody women's trauma and opression, or to force themselves into women's spaces. Those are the behaviours we take issue with. By all means males should crack on with the dresses, nails, lippy and hair.

Gender is a construct, sure. So is religion, nationality, race. Sexuality as we understand it is a Victorian invention. Do we tell people they can't define themselves according to those things?

Sexuality is not a "Victorian invention". Some people are only attracted to the opposite sex. Some people are only attracted to the same sex. Some people are attracted to both sexes.

If people could identify out of it, given that it's been punishable by death in the past, they might have chosen to do so. But they cannot make themselves be attracted to the opposite sex if they are not.

The idea that you can be defined by your sexual attraction is a Victorian one. Few people's sexualities are cut and dried anyway, and young people have a much more fluid concept. The old labels are beginning to fall away.

Do gay men ever get told this?
Are they ever told that they are old fashioned for liking dick and not fanny?

I agree that sexuality is, fortunately, far more nuanced these days but I still don’t see gay men being called bigots for not wanting to have a relationship with someone who has a vagina.

I agree that sexuality is, fortunately, far more nuanced these days but I still don’t see gay men being called bigots for not wanting to have a relationship with someone who has a vagina.

They do, but mostly they appear to laugh it off, the average "trans man" isn't threatening to a man in the same way some MTF "lesbians" can be to women.

Few people's sexualities are cut and dried anyway

This is glib, echo chamber nonsense. Many people are completely monosexual. Both here and in Spain. Bisexuality is not everyone's cup of tea.

I agree that belief in gender ideology is just like a religion.

I'm atheist but have friends, family and neighbours of many religions. They don't force me to pray, or recite religious text or even to agree that their god exists though.

Some religious people do operate like that of course. The current iteration of trans ideology is operating as a fundamentalist religion which is especially worrying when governments go along with it. Trans people don't all think like that of course but the ones that do seem to take a lot of the representation.

I never said bisexuality is everyone's cup of tea, just that most people don't have an easily defined sexuality, even if they pretend to others or themselves that they do. Why the obsession with labelling and limiting people?

I call myself straight but I've had more same sex encounters than some gay and bisexual people I know. I know gay men who've slept with more women than a lot of straight men I know. Maybe a few people have straightforward sexualities but that's unusual, and more and more people acknowledge that fact.

I suspect most people are pansexual really.

If we’re not labelling, why are transwomen so desperately demanding the labels Woman and lesbian?

Do you go around telling your Muslim friends that they aren't really Muslim because Islam is just made up? Do you think they should have no protection from discrimination under the law?

Everyone has a gender identity. You are just privileged if you never had to think about it. Just like those of us with no faith have to define ourselves as atheists, in relation to faith, because faith is such a fundamental concept in almost all human societies.

I'm not a trans woman or a lesbian. I don't like labels, some people do. I can't speak for them.

You don't like labels, yet you have labelled everyone on this thread (and other threads) who disagrees with you right-wing.

Everyone has a gender identity. You are just privileged if you never had to think about it.

No they don't. Just like not everyone has a religion. I don't have a 'gender identity'.

I edited my post above to add:

'Everyone has a gender identity. You are just privileged if you never had to think about it. Just like those of us with no faith have to define ourselves as atheists, in relation to faith, because faith is such a fundamental concept in almost all human societies.'

We all have a relationship to gender, because it is a fundamental concept in our society, whether you like it or not. (I don't like it, btw)

I think political, ideological and religious labels are different to those relating to gender and sexuality. Just my opinion.

Oh righto.
"Just my opinion" is a useful phrase when there's no defence.

You can define yourself as left wing or liberal, but as a political actor you are now a part of the populist right.

We all have a relationship to gender, because it is a fundamental concept in our society, whether you like it or not. (I don't like it, btw)

Yes, gender is an external force exerted on people because of their sex - no need for any internal gender identity at all.

And personally, I don't think that you're either of a religion, or atheist - there are people (eg. me) who doesn't know and doesn't care if there's a god. I not only don't believe, I don't disbelieve - so I wouldn't describe myself as an atheist.

I don't define myself based on other people's religions, or how they think men/women should act. I feel no need to use their labels or involve myself in those concepts at all.