Andrew Doyle

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Anyone been following this on twitter? He's been attacked for calling Debbie Hayton she in an interview.
Some horrible homophobic stuff and he has left twitter.

https://x.com/fem_mb/status/1754747745967988982?s=20

The attacks on Janice Turner, Stella Creasey, Kathleen Stock and now Andrew Doyle, people who've been at the forefront of putting themselves on the line over this issue, for years, is so utterly depressing.

Sure, disagree with their decisions make your point but accept good people, really good people in these cases, may make come to a different decision to you sometimes. Particularly when it's complex, tricky, and still being worked through.

Some GC feminists are really revealing themselves to be as authoritian as the TRAs.

AGPs really are the grift that keeps on giving.

"............The attacks on Janice Turner, Stella Creasey, Kathleen Stock and now Andrew Doyle, people who've been at the forefront of putting themselves on the line over this issue, for years, is so utterly depressing............."

Stella Creasy???????????????

Are we sure these are actually women doing the attacking? Are the X accounts certified in any way or can any old troll step in and post?

Stella Creasy? Are you really sure about that?

Sorry Stella O'Malley.

I'm guessing that should have said Stella O'Malley.

Cross post!

Those accounts are American. How is this our problem?

I don't know but a lot of women such as Julie Bindal, Helen Joyce and other GC feminists seem to think it's other women.

It would be comforting to think women wouldn't do this to good people who've supported them but that does feel like clutching at straws.

Screenshots would be nice for those terminally not on twix,
Other than that, how do we know its women doing this? Do they all have the blue tick? Is that still a thing? Confirming the accounts belong to women, real women?

It wouldnt be beyond the wit of TRAs to launch something like this to try and prove the both sides argument.

That is sudden and unexpected behaviour. GC feminists haven't done this in the 7 years I've been involved. Seems more like our TRA friends behaviour.

Andrew Doyle gets a barrage of shit on a regular basis from pathetic little stunted brain knuckle draggers. I would be very surprised to see that this is GC feminists.

Hopefully he's OK. I'm sure this is incredibly stressful.

Well he seems to think it's GC feminists as do many other GC feminists who are supporting him.

I hope so too @StephanieSuperpowers he's a really good bloke who has been all over this issue for years and has taken a lot of abuse from TRAs.

He's obviously very distressed and has deleted his account and the Tatiana McGrath account.

He deserves support from women right now, this: why is it my problem? and it's probably not true response is pathetic.

Debbie Hayton is a man though? A cosmetically altered man but still a man.

For the record I’m not on Twitter nor do I believe in attacking g anyone.

Yes. I don't agree with calling Hayton "she" but it shouldn't lead to someone feeling compelled to delete social media accounts.

I’m not sure why you are calling people here pathetic? Why for being shocked an actual feminist would throw homophobic slurs? For asking for proof that it is actual GC feminists or just nasty vicious trolls on social media? I haven’t spat bile at anyone on Twitter. I’m disgusted by anyone doing it.

Yes Andrew Doyle knows that but made a decision in this situation to use female pronouns.

There's a debate to be had about this but what are some GC feminists going to do? Hound everyone who ever uses a wrong pronoun until they withdraw from the public discussion?

Stupid idea.

These have been linked to many times today. Appalling in themselves.

In the early hours, there was a thread about his concern that an X Spaces session had been derogatory, but others say it was not. Today, I've seen it's possibly available to hear again - by a Robbie Travers? And yesterday evening, some had wondered if Doyle uses a mass blocker, and that he had been block-happy in the past.

As I said for saying it's not our problem and disbelieving woman would do this instead of outrage at the hounding of a man who has put himself on the line over and over for GC women.

Yes I think it's pathetic.

I read something here ten minutes ago. I expressed shock that feminists would do that and you came straight in with that being pathetic? Right. Heard and understood.

It's feeling to me like there are now a group of women calling themselves GC who have followed the logic of the pronoun debate and are now excited by the absolute moral clarity they believe they've discovered and they're swinging this about righteously attacking anyone who for any reason is not pure on this issue at all times.

It doesn't matter how dedicated you've been, how much previous good will you may have accrued, you can be slain and shunned with the statements of truth which are so satisfying to declare and which allow no grace.

The homophobic comment came from anon American acc, waldoisgoing, who rants about all sorts of crap and is abusive to everyone. It's not a GC account.

UK anon account, mishythelesbian, posted about hating men, not gay men specifically.

Another UK anon account, ladysolucky, said men are liars. Again, nothing about homosexuals.

They are small accounts with few followers. They are immature nobodies.

The 'self-confessed homophobe', revfemstbeat, is American. Gingrich says she's a GC activist, but she doesn't seem connected to the UK scene apart from commenting on our news sometimes via Twitter. What has that got to do with us? Just block her.

The chat is something else, people who listened deny it was as AD portrays. It will be interesting to find out. Must have been recorded.

Abuse is wrong whoever does it.

People who abuse others whatever the pretext are sad bullies.

I don’t recognise the style of the women who discuss things round here in those tweets. The tone is different from the voices you hear on FWR. Those abusive people may be GC, that doesn’t mean they are like us, or us.

I would expect people here to defend anyone against homophobic abuse whether they agree with their views or not.