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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

4 year old boy started primary school as a girl...

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impossibletoday · 26/01/2024 21:57

https://twitter.com/CforWomenUK/status/1750997335570534457?t=a-oev8ZajeoOWM0nSOMhtQ&s=19

Now in year 4 is 'flashing their willy' at the girls.

Hopefully someone can archive the link

https://twitter.com/CforWomenUK/status/1750997335570534457?s=19&t=a-oev8ZajeoOWM0nSOMhtQ

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RedToothBrush · 28/01/2024 12:13

ilovebreadsauce · 28/01/2024 12:05

Where is the evidence that the child would notbhave been exposing themselves had they been raised as a boy

The child has been told to keep it a secret.
There is a culture where gentials are associated with secrecy.
This is a safeguarding issue.

The child then tells the girls to keep it a secret after flashing them.
This is a safeguarding issue.

Even if the girls don't keep the secret and tell a parent, they risk not being believed by their parents.
This is a safeguarding issue.

Your point is irrelevant.

Boomboom22 · 28/01/2024 12:30

@ilovebreadsauce do you not understand that its the child's parents who are so obsessed with genitals that when their boy liked Princess stuff it upset them so so badly they transitioned him into a girl? Likely because they were terrified he might be gay.

Boys are allowed to like anything they want and it doesn't make them girls. These parents have abused this child due to their beliefs. I am unsure in this case if these beliefs are religious or gender ideology based but either way they have not let him be himself however he wants. He can be a boy and like girls clothes and toys! There's no such thing as boy things and girl things. Only bodies.

Boomboom22 · 28/01/2024 12:34

This is why very religious people and countries like Iran are so in favour of trans. Trans the gay away. It is appalling and so regressive.
And it doesn't work! We don't have the technology. If we did and it worked so you could pass, literally become the other sex safely then I don't care, do what you want. But you can't.

However people are all individuals and can live however they want within society, following rules like sport that are biology based or toilets that are safety based on statistics based.

I don't know where the gi tra get their weird ideas about what gc people think. It's in the name! Critical of gender/ sex role stereotypes.

duc748 · 28/01/2024 13:00

We don't have the technology. If we did and it worked so you could pass, literally become the other sex safely then I don't care, do what you want. But you can't.

Don't say that! There'll be some Dr. Frankenstein along in the future, sure enough, grafting different bits into different bodies. After all, medical ethics seem to have gone out of the window years ago.

GwenogJones · 28/01/2024 13:27

in regards to "whats to say he wouldn't have been flashing his willy if he'd been raised a boy", as has been asked upthread - perhaps he would have been.

But had he been raised a boy he would not have been in the girls toilets by permission of all the adults in order to flash these girls.

And these girls would not have thought they were in a girls only space with another girl who then flashed "her" willy at them.

Those girls would not have been lied to for the past four years and would not have discovered they could not trust the adults supposed to care for them, or been disbelieved when they reported.

If this boy had been raised a boy, he would have flashed his willy in the playground, the girls would have told, the boy would get into trouble, parents informed and a note made on the safeguarding system. End of story. It's not even that rare an occurrence.

It is the lies and secrecy which has led to massive safeguarding failures for this boy and the girls, and the breaking of trust of for all the children in the class, but especially these girls, who have been sold a lie for the past four years which make this newsworthy.

The adults in charge of safeguarding and protecting children colluded in a lie, when the subject of that lie was much to young to understand the ramifications of it, which led to other children having being flashed at in a girls toilet which they thought was a penis free zone. Those children have now lost trust in the adults around them. The boy is showing clear signs that all is not well in his transition by a) exposing his genitalia and b) talking about dark spirits.

None of this would have happened had he "been raised a boy"

What about that is difficult to understand?

VinegarTrio · 28/01/2024 13:37

ilovebreadsauce · 28/01/2024 12:05

Where is the evidence that the child would notbhave been exposing themselves had they been raised as a boy

He’d have been in the boys’ toilets instead.

The opportunity to flash the girls only arises because all the adults are insisting that everyone pretends the child is not male.

This is really obvious and straightforward.

No school should have indulged the parents in transing their 4 year old. No school should be lying to the other children about the child’s sex.

VinegarTrio · 28/01/2024 13:49

duc748 · 28/01/2024 13:00

We don't have the technology. If we did and it worked so you could pass, literally become the other sex safely then I don't care, do what you want. But you can't.

Don't say that! There'll be some Dr. Frankenstein along in the future, sure enough, grafting different bits into different bodies. After all, medical ethics seem to have gone out of the window years ago.

There is a difference between ‘passing’ (successfully fooling everyone around you) and actually becoming the opposite sex.

Ethics seems to generally have gone out of the window with gender ideology though. The TRA agenda has it that it’s totally fine to lie to people are remove their ability to make their own, informed, decisions.

ResisterRex · 28/01/2024 14:24

ilovebreadsauce · 28/01/2024 12:05

Where is the evidence that the child would notbhave been exposing themselves had they been raised as a boy

Worst. "Gotcha". Ever.

Kucinghitam · 28/01/2024 14:24

@GwenogJones and @VinegarTrio - extremely well put, and exactly what I would have said too!

This is why I love the brilliant MNers and why #OperationLetThemSpeak is so educational for lurkers. Anybody who doesn't have their Righteous head up their Righteous arse can quickly see just how empty the soundbites are of those who self-identify as Righteous.

WearyAuldWumman · 28/01/2024 14:25

ilovebreadsauce · 28/01/2024 12:05

Where is the evidence that the child would notbhave been exposing themselves had they been raised as a boy

If treated as a boy, he wouldn't be able to expose himself in the girls' toilets.

ETA I see that someone has already made that point.

VinegarTrio · 28/01/2024 15:08

@WearyAuldWumman to be fair, it’s worth repeating the point. It might help it sink in a bit.

Let’s face it, you have to have buried your head pretty far to be insisting that a 4 year old has a fixed, transgender identity.

Outwiththenorm · 28/01/2024 15:14

A Year 4 boy exposing himself to girls is also NOT normal behaviour for that age.

Also if it was an 8 year old girl ‘flashing’ boys in the boys’ toilet you can bet Safeguarding procedures would have been followed and her home life looked into.

Emotionalsupportviper · 28/01/2024 15:22

Binglebong · 26/01/2024 23:06

The Church of England’s guidance for schools on bullying, titled “Valuing All God’s Children’, which includes a foreword by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, states: “The protected characteristic of gender reassignment only works one way – not being transgender is not a protected characteristic.

“Consequently schools can make adjustments to meet the needs of a trans pupil without being accused of discriminating against non-trans pupils.”

Fucking hell. Definitely no hierarchy there.

And the CofE wonders why it is losing support.

Emotionalsupportviper · 28/01/2024 15:24

ilovebreadsauce · 27/01/2024 00:46

It is absolutely nobody else's business what is inside a 4 year old's pants. Have you thought the chikd might have been born intersex?

Does that entitle him to threaten and abuse other children? If he was "born intersex"* would he have a recognisable "willy" to show anyone?

*Please use the term DSD. Thank you.

VinegarTrio · 28/01/2024 15:35

*And please stop what-if-ering about people with DSD in discussions of people with transgender identities. Or whose parents and teachers have assigned them one.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 28/01/2024 15:50

I expect someone has already said this, but, how can the characteristic of sex be protected as required by equality law, if anyone is allowed to conceal their sex?

I'm looking at you, ERCC.

ApocalipstickNow · 28/01/2024 16:56

I’m pretty sure if he had “been raised as a boy” there wouldn’t be anyone on this thread saying it’s wrong to talk about a child exposing his penis to girls.

Delphinium20 · 28/01/2024 17:20

If a man is "passing" as a woman, he's willing to do whatever it takes to destroy women's boundaries so why should women trust such extreme frauds? If the entire goal is to trick people...

NoBinturongsHereMate · 28/01/2024 18:09

We don't have the technology. If we did and it worked so you could pass, literally become the other sex safely then I don't care, do what you want

Passing physically is only a part of it. You'd need the technology to wipe and replace a lifetime's socialisation and experiences. Even with the most advanced theoretical technology you can't become the other sex and remain 'you', because 'you' will always have been shaped by your sexed physical body and the way the world has responded to that.

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