4 year old boy started primary school as a girl...

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Now in year 4 is 'flashing their willy' at the girls.

Hopefully someone can archive the link

So much simpler when I started primary school (admittedly a long time ago). We even had separate line ups to get In, one for boys, one for girls. I feel sorry for kids now. How and why did it become so complicated.

Does the CofE have particular expertise in either bullying or the law that qualifies them to issue this guidance?

The former, probably- perpetration and coverups.

It is absolutely nobody else's business what is inside a 4 year old's pants. Have you thought the chikd might have been born intersex?

I imagine as one of the richest entities in the country, they have much expert advice they can draw on.More than you anyway.

Do expand, please. I'm eager to learn more from you.

#OperationLetThemSpeak

Damn, I'm out of popcorn. It will have to be crisps.

How is it possible to completely change society on the sly? How is this happening with no discussion, consultation or expected dissent? How are we just supposed to go along with this?

What if the girls cannot recognise men for being men when they are older? What if they have less instinct, less understanding of their necessary boundaries? Their 'cave women' senses dulled?

Where are all the studies on this that have been done before they implemented this - there are some - right? Where is Gillian Keegan?

It is absolutely nobody else's business what is inside a 4 year old's pants.

Has anyone told the child this? Seeing as the child is showing the contents of said pants to other children?

Also, may I just highlight the absurdity of the sentence "nobody else's business" on a parenting site, especially when followed with speculation that the child might have one of a range of extremely rare medical conditions, all of which would need management and continued follow-up from specialists?

Even if your child does not have a complex medical condition, parenting is jusr continuous management of "what is inside a child's pants" from birth onwards. It does not stop at four, unless you are an irresponsible ratbag masquerading as a parent!

Sure, the majority of four-year-olds are potty-trained, and so presumably going to the toilet independently, but even for them, occasional accidents are normal, needing support from an adult. Kids of that age still don't necessarily wipe properly. Then there's the urinary tract infections, the constipation, and discovering that all the children in the class have worms from shared playdough.

"Nobody else's business" indeed!

Ridiculous sensationalist article. The main complaint is that the girl doesn't want to befriend boys and that the boy starts hitting them. Newsflash, lots of girls are friends with boys - and most little boys aren't violent to their friends.

“I don’t want to hold hands with boys, Mum. I was only holding Bobby’s hand because I thought she was a girl.”

The interviewed parents say that their daughter has been robbed of her childhood!! What nonsense.

I'm a tail-end boomer.

When I was 4, I watched a black-and-white war film on telly and informed my mum that - as a 2 yr old - I used to kill Nazis by dropping boulders on them.

When my dcs were young I was in a fb mum group with someone who did this. The mum changed his name legally and everything from about 2.
I unfriended her because I knew she had gender disappointment in her pregnancy with him, and to me it was an obvious ploy to make him into the girl she had wanted. He said he wanted to wear dresses, as a lot of 2yos do regardless of gender, and she ran away with it as fast as possible.
Very odd behaviour.

I absolutely loathed teaching children to brush their teeth, and the daily reminders never seem to stop being necessary. You have to check that they've actually brushed their teeth for long enough every day, of every week, of every month of every year, for a flipping decade. At one point, we had to buy plaque disclosing tablets to demonstrate to them why and how they weren't brushing their teeth properly. Then there's arranging the dental check-ups around school, provided you can even find a dentist accepting patients.

With any future child, can I just check out of it after four by declaring "it's nobody's business what's in a four year old's mouth", or are we still classing that as neglect?

Absolutely I agree with this. I do think a lot of children are pushed in this direction for sm likes and praise

I agree this is a highly odd story and I suspect there is more to it than is being reported.

But if he is genuinely peeing standing up aged 4 and “flashing his willy”, it doesn’t sound like he’s intersex.

The main complaint is that the girl doesn't want to befriend boys and that the boy starts hitting them.

The main complaint, which is pretty explicit in the interview with the family members, is that the girl has lost trust in adults.

Yup. Someone needs to challenge that guidance. It is plain wrong.

Well, that story has urgent safeguarding referral all over it.

Sorry, that's all I have....several aspects directly breach kcsie.

My preschooler doesn’t understand yesterday, today, last week, tomorrow etc. and has regularly asked where my Willy is.

Why aren’t the parents parenting this child? When did vaguely steering in the right direction become synonymous with child abuse?

Reminded me of this

My sister’s friend’s son wanted to line up with the girls, which was a significant piece of evidence that he was one, apparently.

I do believe that there are a tiny number of children who persistently state that they are the opposite sex. I also believe that the correct thing to do is to consistently explain reality to them, including reminders that they can wear whatever they like and play with whatever they like, whichever sex they are (unfortunately more complicated with boys, due to the greater prejudice against them wearing girls’ clothes) then get them psychiatric help if the delusion persists.

What we shouldn’t be doing is accepting that their delusion is normal and encouraging them to pretend they’re something they’re not and insisting the rest of the world must pretend too.

Those poor children, all of them. Messed up by adults, who should be there to protect and safeguard them.

Of course you are correct.

So, said child should keep the pants on and not show off the dangly bit!

More importantly said child should be made aware that at age 4 having a dangly bit means the child is likely to be a boy... and if he wants to be a dinosaur, toaster or a pretty flower than that's what he'll be for the time being. As long as he keeps his teeth in check, don't pop up toast in someone's face or mess around with his petals!

Those poor girls learning that both adults and males lie in such an enormous way is awful.

Slightly linked; mermaids has been encouraging parents to write to schools re guidance.

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