4 year old boy started primary school as a girl...

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https://twitter.com/CforWomenUK/status/1750997335570534457?t=a-oev8ZajeoOWM0nSOMhtQ&s=19

Now in year 4 is 'flashing their willy' at the girls.

Hopefully someone can archive the link

V concerning behaviour from the child as he's learnt that he can get reactions from the girls via toilets and flashing, as well as other physical behaviour.

And has been brought up to believe he has a right to be in the girls' spaces.

And at y4, children have a lot of self awareness.

NSPCC messages about pantasaurus clearly working well there.

What sex a person is is hugely important to children. It is a very normal part of their social development that they become aware of sex differences and then segregate socially. IME between ages 6-10 they have a significant preference for sex-segregated play, so of course will feel betrayed and horrible if they have been lied to about where a child fits in that categorisation. Even where girls do play with boys, it’s important that they know they are boys: as the child says, they want to judge who to hold hands with etc.

People who have disorders of sexual development (‘intersex’) are still male or female.

If there's any autism there it may be very difficult to help him understand the boundaries around this.

I've taught some children with autism who also have adhd and they have strong desires for reactions from peers to what ever they find gets a 'rise,' as part of their sensory feedback needs.

No, the main complaint is that these girls have consistently and over a long period been lied to about something really fundamental by people they should have been able to trust to tell them the truth.

That poor boy as well, the pressure he's under to behave a certain way and to keep a massive secret.

Our school has a girl who started school as a boy, transitioned at 4, spent most of primary 1 crying while the parents said how much happier they were as a boy, WTF?

My 4yo told some people that she'd been a girl at nursery and the parents sent insane hyperbolic emails that my 4yo DS was misgendering, deadnaming, outing and putting "his" life at risk, you name it. All the while turning their happy carefree little girl into a nervous wreck of a boy. At 10yo this child has so many mental health problems but the parents still think they are winning at parenting - 20yos on Twitter tell them they are, after all (and Mermaids).

All this is terrifying- at that age no child should know the concept of "dark spirits sucking out their soul". Massive red flag for psychological abuse, as well as obviously denying reality, lying to the child and getting the child to lie to the world. Clever boy though to show everyone his penis as a way of stating the truth and getting out of this bullshit. I hope he gets the help he deserves and his parents go on some watchlist (even though that doesn't exist since the likes of Michelle Mone and cronies have stolen £bn that could've funded social services, MH care, the NHS etc etc....) 😭

He's doing it to show who he really is, not in a sexual way I'd've thought!
He wouldn't have been shown what it's for sexually if they want him to be a girl.
Isn't a kid flashing often a sign of sexual abuse? This seems more psychological so they'd be denying his penis is a thing.
So him showing it at school could be a clever way of telling the truth?

Well it's child abuse, isn't it?

Where are social services?

Like Stonewall?

”It would be unkind to ask how that’s working out for you”

If it's nobody else's business why does he keep showing the contents of his pants to the girls?

'ridiculous' and 'nonsense'.

Do you normally show such contempt for the boundaries and consent of women and girls?

Absolutely sick. Transhausens by proxy. What are the school thinking?! Why wouldn't they just say 'your child is 4, there'll be no treating them as the opposite sex', while reporting to social services. Who then act. I mean, surely no right thinking person (either trans or not) would think this is right. I have a nearly 4 year old. These parents obviously love love love it when their toddler says 'i am a girl/boy'. They jump on it because it feeds their 'specialness'. My girl often says 'I'm a boy', as well as being a cat and dog. A normal parent takea no notice and just smiles. This is absolutely abuse by the parents.

Absolutely appalling. Heads should roll and the parents need investigating.

But very pleased the issue is being reported and capturing the attention of an ever wider public.

Yes

There's a girl in Dd's class dressed up as a boy. They are in Y3 now but apparently she has been like this since reception, except she had long hair then. Since Y1 she looks like a boy 100%.

I don't know the parents well so no idea if it came from them or the girl, but at least in DD's class everyone knows she's a girl wanting to be a boy 🤷

'Intersex' or those with a DSD are still either male or female not a combination of both. Their parents know exactly what sex their child is and if they have a penis they are male.

He's doing it to show who he really is, not in a sexual way I'd've thought!
He wouldn't have been shown what it's for sexually if they want him to be a girl.
Isn't a kid flashing often a sign of sexual abuse? This seems more psychological so they'd be denying his penis is a thing
So him showing it at school could be a clever way of telling the truth?

It could be but the wider picture of provoking behaviour raises a few red flags.

It's not remotely sexual but it's gaining a reaction. And he's aware that it is. We don't know how it was dealt with but the boundary laying is already on the back foot due to the fact he's allowed in the girls. If he was autistic (possible) that adds an extra layer of difficulty with understanding points of view.

It's a common thing among much younger children and some autistic and often adhd children - do something and gain a predictable reaction. Often linked to low self esteem too.

I'm not looking at the behaviour as anything other than he's learnt cause and effect but it's the context of the girls' toilets and how the narratives are being played around him that concerns me at that older age. He's still being told that he can be in those toilets.

Anyone who has spent even a small amount of time listening to transactactivists knows that when you create a boundary, the first thing they'll do is try to remove it.

And anyone could have told Kemi that the pushback to the government guidance will be fierce and relentless.

The ridiculous letter from Mermaids being a prime example. Hopefully trying to get parents to ignore government guidance, when they are already under investigation will be the final nail in their coffin.

This awful situation, where little girls are becoming depressed and withdrawn because their schools are complicit in a complete disintegration of safeguarding, won't be an isolated incident.

Parents are beginning to appreciate that they can absolutely take issue with the trans lobby's infiltration into their children's schools.

This will be just the beginning.

The government are going to understand why women at the coalface warned them that the guidance didn't go far enough.

Kemi wanted to the guidance to say no 'trans children' in school at all, but she was persuaded to water that down because of the equally act.

You can't leave a single loophole anywhere. The trans lobby will always, always drive a truck through it.

It isn't an isolated incident of children being transed and adults being told to lie to children and their parents about it, no:

www.transgendertrend.com/analysis-mermaids-press-statement/

Child abuse. Plain and simple.

When I think of my four boys, now strapping rugby playing, gym going, girl obsessed teens, in their nursery and reception classes at 4 - loving the dress up corner, wearing tutus and dressing up as witches and wizards, playing house and mummies and daddies, all the imagination and explorations in the home corner, being cats, being dogs, being princesses, 'I'll be the mummy today' etc etc - my heart breaks for this boy that has had his natural development destroyed by deluded and abusive, self obsessed adults.

It is emotional abuse of both the boy and the girls.

By the adults who are supposed to protect them.

It reminds me of South Park when Cartman sees a boy with tourrettes

I couldn’t agree with you more especially your final statement.

Let children play. Let children have a childhood.

In these cases, it is ALL about the parents and THEIR motives and fucked-upness.

Young children can have very close intense relationships. That are extremely foundational to how they move forward in their relationships for the rest of their lives.

And for some it really does matter if the child they're close to is a boy or a girl; a friend often comments that she absolutely detested boys when she was a girl and doesn't understand how her daughter is so close to some male peers.

That level of deep emotional betrayal is very damaging.

And it's also taught the boy to deceive and lie and that adults will help him, rather than the firm boundaries he needed.