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Another GC Employment Tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #5

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nauticant · 24/01/2024 15:43

Roz Adams was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) as a counsellor. She is claiming constructive dismissal for Gender Critical (GC) beliefs. The CEO of ERCC is a well known transwoman known for, among other things, controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There's live tweeting from https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets. There's an informative substack here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

This post explains how to get access to watch the hearing: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2?page=24&reply=132419912

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
ERCC or R: Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, the respondent
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

RA gave evidence over 15-18 January 2024.

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024 (on behalf of RA)
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katy McTernan (referred to both as KT and KM): 22-23 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Miren Sagues (MS): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katie Horburgh (KH): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis
Thread #2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2
Thread #3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4990903-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-3
Thread #4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4991883-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-4

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nauticant · 03/04/2024 10:10

Welcome to the conference.

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ickky · 03/04/2024 10:11

Chrysanthemum5 · 03/04/2024 10:09

I'm having the same issue as last time where it won't access my camera of microphone so won't let me switch them off - therefore it won't let me enter!

Join on your mobile, I also had the same problem.

nauticant · 03/04/2024 10:11

Could you go into Settings during the log-in process and specifically permit camera and microphone and then when you've logged in specifically turn off the microphone and camera @Chrysanthemum5? (I'm talking about the process on a PC.)

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ickky · 03/04/2024 10:13

It wouldn't work on mine, it didn't even recognise my mic and camera.

Chrysanthemum5 · 03/04/2024 10:15

On the instructions it shows a button next to the connect ne where you select camera etc. but it is missing when I connect via the browser. I'm connected via my phone now and I've remembered that's what I had to do last time.

HarpQuartet · 03/04/2024 10:15

Nothing happening yet, 2 people waiting in the (virtual) lobby

nauticant · 03/04/2024 10:15

Try a different browser?

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Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:17

I'm still waiting for an email.😫

nauticant · 03/04/2024 10:17

They should sort out the microphones. Whenever people shift about in the room it sounds like an earthquake is happening.

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nauticant · 03/04/2024 10:19

Oral submissions to be done today. NC is requesting that panel spends half an hour reading written submissions first and for counsel to be able to get through oral submissions more swiftly.

Break now till 11am.

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ickky · 03/04/2024 10:20

Fuck me, they have all fucked off to read the submissions first.

It is no wonder that court cases take forever!

Justabaker · 03/04/2024 10:22

ickky · 03/04/2024 10:20

Fuck me, they have all fucked off to read the submissions first.

It is no wonder that court cases take forever!

I just came here to say that.

I'm live tweeting today, at least I can go clean my teeth and change out of my pyjamas. I'll feel more professional. 😂

GoodHeavens99 · 03/04/2024 10:24

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:17

I'm still waiting for an email.😫

Me too. I'm glad they've adjourned for a bit.

GoodHeavens99 · 03/04/2024 10:26

@Boiledbeetle Just received mine.

AuntieAntik · 03/04/2024 10:33

I ticked the option to join as 'presentation only' - is that the right option? I live in fear of being seen and heard in all my scruffy working from home glory.

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:35

GoodHeavens99 · 03/04/2024 10:26

@Boiledbeetle Just received mine.

Ooh...

Yay! I have too!

GoodHeavens99 · 03/04/2024 10:36

I should have got my bum in gear and requested it yesterday.
I thought it would be the same information.

Lesson learned!

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:37

Justabaker · 03/04/2024 10:22

I just came here to say that.

I'm live tweeting today, at least I can go clean my teeth and change out of my pyjamas. I'll feel more professional. 😂

If it helps at least one of those reading the tweets will also be in her pjs (but I've at least cleaned my teeth)

AuntieAntik · 03/04/2024 10:41

Should I be hearing or seeing anything? I can see the names of attendees has now appeared.

MarieDeGournay · 03/04/2024 10:41

I'm live tweeting today, at least I can go clean my teeth and change out of my pyjamas. I'll feel more professional. 😂
Thank you Justabaker for giving me the oppo to share what is one of my favourite cartoons everrrrrrrrrr! The brilliant Nicole Hollander, from sometime in the 80s I think?

Another GC Employment Tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #5
Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:41

who has got their camera on? Lady in striped top.

And i can hear heavy rain!

MarieDeGournay · 03/04/2024 10:42

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:41

who has got their camera on? Lady in striped top.

And i can hear heavy rain!

Is that a haiku?

AuntieAntik · 03/04/2024 10:42

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:41

who has got their camera on? Lady in striped top.

And i can hear heavy rain!

I can't hear or see anything?

GoodHeavens99 · 03/04/2024 10:42

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 10:41

who has got their camera on? Lady in striped top.

And i can hear heavy rain!

Is that rain??

I thought it was my speakers acting weird.

AuntieAntik · 03/04/2024 10:45

OK, I had the wrong settings. Joined as audio only now.