Another GC Employment Tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #5

[nauticant]

Roz Adams was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) as a counsellor. She is claiming constructive dismissal for Gender Critical (GC) beliefs. The CEO of ERCC is a well known transwoman known for, among other things, controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There's live tweeting from https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets. There's an informative substack here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

This post explains how to get access to watch the hearing: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2?page=24&reply=132419912

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
ERCC or R: Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, the respondent
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

RA gave evidence over 15-18 January 2024.

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024 (on behalf of RA)
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katy McTernan (referred to both as KT and KM): 22-23 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Miren Sagues (MS): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katie Horburgh (KH): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis
Thread #2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2
Thread #3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4990903-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-3
Thread #4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4991883-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-4

Oral submissions as closing arguments. There was some suggestion that these could be made in writing but NC was keen for them to be made in person and oral. NC's diary meant that this wasn't practical until April.

I imagine this is because oral submissions will be reported by Trib Tweets, so visible and recorded to a degree.

And, she did the Rachael Meade case, didn't she?

She did.

<Pulls back the curtains, opens the windows to get some air in, and starts dusting off the surfaces.>

Status
The hearing took place at Edinburgh Employment Tribunal from 15 to 24 January 2024.
Oral submissions will be heard on 3rd April 2024, the first available date for the Tribunal panel and both counsel. It then could be 3-6 months before the judgment is handed down.

Man alive, it's dusty in here!

I'll grab some Pledge. 🧼

I've an all day meeting tomorrow, I'm so sorry that I won't be able to attend but shall be dropping in and out here.

<dumps carrier bag of biscuits, starts support roomba, empties and rinses kettle>

Do you think we’ll need gin? I’m almost out so will pop to the shops if we think reinforcements will be required.

Thanks for the reminder. Will be looking in.

It's submissions so why not. Hopefully for the judgement we'll need champagne 🍾

Oh thank you! I had quite lost track of it being April already

<Gives the tea urn a scrub>

I should be able to attend. Are others contacting whoever we had to contact before to request attendance online? (Will need to remind myself.)

Are Tribunal Tweets covering the oral submissions?

Will the same link work or will we need a new one?

I got in touch with them and they sent my new (different) access credentials.

[email protected]

Can anyone put up a Nitter link please

Got a new link very easy to do if you have the original email you can just reply to them asking for the new link

Thanks all, I'll be following here too.

Just received my link and PIN. I'm supposing a 10am start - does anyone know? I've tried googling but am obviously not managing to use the right keywords to look up the programme/running order.

It is usually 10am

If anyone else is joining on their mobile, here is the address to put in the Pexip Infinity Connect app

[email protected]

Thank you for the reminder @nauticant

I would never have remembered. 😁

I'd forgotten this was today I've just emailed for access.

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1775448342719320286

I'm having the same issue as last time where it won't access my camera of microphone so won't let me switch them off - therefore it won't let me enter!