Another GC employment tribunal. Adam's vs Edinburgh Rape Crsis

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Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

That last sentence needs repeating over and over and over.

If you're not on Twitter - Tribunal Tweets has a substack that pulls together the coverage including an overview of the case and the tweet threads for the day.

https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

We will be accepting donations - including one off - soon.

Tribunal Tweets had clearly been alerted this was coming up, and a very good thing too. If RA didn't need crowdfunding, she was very wise to keep this under the radar otherwise till now. Sadly there are bound to be unpleasant personal comments.

If MW gets a subpoena does that mean it would be contempt of court for MW not to attend without very good reason? I don't know how employment tribunals work from that point of view.

Failing MW, I'd like to see Maggie Chapman in the witness box. My fingers really wanted to type 'witless' there, for some reason ...

Tribunal Tweets did sterling work yesterday. I saw on Nitter (I don’t have an X account) they were tweeting from another tribunal on their TT2 TwiX feed. They do us all a huge service.

I was also impressed by the claimant’s statement yesterday.

I don’t think witnesses are compelled to give evidence for employment tribunals. The defence will choose their own witnesses depending on how best to defend the case. If they fail to produce a relevant witness that will make their case less strong so it would be harmful to their case.

I think it must be a woman as it said she works in Bieras Place now and is seeing women who weren’t referred by ERCC. Thanks for posting this.

Witnesses are decided before the trial though. I think if their statements form part of the trial bundle then they are obliged to appear for cross examination.

I actually found this tribunal because I was looking for the other one as I have a professional interest in it.

I really hope the press pick up on the ERC case and the harm caused to raped women because of toxic gender ideology.

Just catching up this morning. The above is very telling isn't it, our website says one thing but in reality don't question anything or we will tell you to fuck off.

So kind and caring! Definitely putting aside their own beliefs and prejudices there to deal with victims properly!

Does Adams’ evidence linking the poor practice to breaches in rape crisis service standards also potentially cause ERC issues for future funding bids?

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/about-us/national-service-standards/

'The RCNSS were most recently refreshed in 2018, with funding support from the Home Office. We continue to develop and adapt the standards to ensure they align with best practice.
All our member Rape Crisis Centres have achieved accreditation through a rigorous process of evidence gathering, review, site visits, and external assessment by a panel of independent professionals.
RCNSS accreditation demonstrates quality and specialism in every aspect of a specialist Rape Crisis Centre’s service provision, including Independent Sexual Violence Advocacy (ISVA) services, emotional support and therapeutic services.
The kitemark covers Rape Crisis Centres' work with all sexual violence and abuse victims and survivors who are eligible to access their services, including women and girls, men and boys, trans and non-binary people, and children and young people.'

RCNSS only cover England and Wales. Scotland have a separate one. The RCNSS was contracted out by a tender process, initiated and funded by the Home Office.

it is not a federation of members as such and has no resemblance to grass roots umbrella services in the voluntary sector. Nor did grass roots services influence the shape of the quality mark.

It is as a matter of fact a QUANGO.

The original standards document, developed had by women for women all over it.

Clearly the captured civil service has had its hand in the revised version.

FFS

I posted this back when Mridul Wadhwa was telling women to reframe their trauma. Glad to see it's still on their website as of today. Might be worth someone archiving.

https://www.ercc.scot/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Edinburgh-Rape-Crisis-Centre-A-Womans-Story-230516.pdf

Someone commented that it painted a rather different picture to the one Wadhwa was pushing:

[quote @PlayYouLikeAShark]

"That's such a sobering piece - it's shocking how little thought is put into the system that expects so much of victims of Rape. I realise this is a few years old but it struck me that this is the sort of thing MW would want to 'wash' from ERCC history because of this section:

"During a support session at ERCC, my worker called the representative’s landline number and managed to speak to the head of the firm. On my behalf, she explained how trying to engage with this request was causing an inordinate level of stress: why was amobile number provided on their letter that no-one could make contact with? He seemed to understand this. He was apologetic and said he’d speak to his colleague named in the letter.^ It was put to him by my support worker^ that I was willing to engage on condition he could provide a female worker. He assured her that he would try to accommodate this."

This is what MW wants to 'wash' from ERCC. The ability of support workers to advocate for the needs of survivors on their terms, specifically when female only support or engagement matters."

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4349837-Full-Transcript-of-the-meeting-with-Mridul-Wadhwa-about-rape-crisis-centers

And for MW the issue of conflict of interest has to be a significant consideration.

The male employee pressing for the destruction of women's protections has very significant personal stakes in one outcome.

Just got a very fast response with access from Edinburgh ET if anyone was still wondering about observing.

Is it possible that Personpeeps had a hand In giving him the job?

Once again, we see the same small set of Righteous Crusaders, spaffing their Righteousness all over an unwary populace, in a grotesque circle jerk of "Halo" Polishing.

MW will have been aware this case was coming for a while..

@LipbalmOrKnickers Do you know if there's an email address to apply for access to observe? All I can find is a phone number.

I would love to observe as RA sounds wonderful - the TT summary was a joy to read. It just goes to show the madness of the ideology when someone who so clearly and genuinely has everyone's best interests at heart is shut down because they're not allowed to hold the belief / note the fact that biological reality matters sometimes.

@LipbalmOrKnickers

Have you got the details to join? I looked on Court serve and couldn't see it. There is one with a rule 50 so I assumed it was that one.

I emailed [email protected] with the heading Public Access Request Adams v Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (all legwork done by a fabulous fellow tribunal viewer) and then the usual email giving name and address and an agreement to act in accordance with the Judge's directives. Heard back within about twenty mins! 😮

Clerk posted a message saying today's session proper will start between 11:30 & 12.

"Rape & trafficking centre staff routinely face intimidation & bullying for speaking out in defence of women's rights"
What fitting timing considering the Employment Tribunal that started today for an ex-employee of Edinburgh Rape Crisis 1/

https://twitter.com/Scot_Feminists/status/1747005628965396701?t=DwGB8QRUN6eecHPP82fVbQ&s=19

Link to article, for anyone who can't access twitter

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12966081/Staff-working-rape-trafficking-centres-routinely-subjected-bullying-intimidation-defending-womens-rights-report-warns.html