Jane Clare Jones on purity spirals

[IamSarah]

Really insightful post on X the platform formally known as Twitter I feel it's worth sharing on here:

x.com/janeclarejones/status/1745760345954689255?s=46&t=NGJBRqkXgp1UazF5I8yjXA

It's not my chin for me, it's a single hair about 2 inches up from my jawline on one side (it grows from nothing to something lengthy and dark that coils overnight), and I have 2 recurrent white hairs at the nasal end of the philtrum. I feel this would be a useless disguise.

Tangent: is your username for Serafina Pekkala?

What the fresh hell is this.
You need to read Victoria Smith's HAGS.

Using measurements and then statistically comparing to other "known" bones to extrapolate the group a sample from is a known technique in archaeology and palaeontology. Used for animals as well as humans.
She said it was like phrenology. Very unwarranted (and this is nothing to do with sample size or the reliability of the findings).
Its not a good idea to wade into a debate where you don't understand the science and call it woke. Makes me question her judgement.

Yes re: name, but I'm more of a gardening pickling witch though, also gooseless.

Huh?

Look at hewpos post two above yours, for what I mean in a context that's nothing to do with me.
Unpleasant and rude. Because a group on here have decided Sarah and the Brighton feminists (whatever that means) are the wrong kind of feminist.

That's how I read it as someone new to the JCJ/KJK argument.

Lol

Campaigning on single issues obviously wouldn't work if people couldn't set aside differences on other things.

But to be successful it probably demands that everyone agrees not to use the issue to actively promote the things they disagree on.

So, you might agree to disagree with someone about the need for urgent action on climate change but what about when that person starts actively campaigning on the lines of "the same people who tell you there's no such thing as a woman are the same people who tell you we need action on climate change #CLIMATESCAM?" Then you're facing the fact that by campaigning for women's rights you could be effectively encouraging climate denial.

@Youdontgivemeflowers that was completely uncalled for. Women across the world have learnt from Tinsel. I know because whilst not a transwidow per se .. I nearly was.. but I read Tinsel's writings way before I even knew my ex was an AGP.
I don't particularly care if Tinsel can be scathing, the public service she has done for women in relationships with AGP abusers deserves an OBE

So you abuse Tinsel, then tell her she should stop being so abusive?

Isn't it interesting that all of a woman's many achievements and very obvious successes are supposedly devalued by the suggestion that she may not be being nice enough?

I suppose though Tinsel you've been called scathing as opposed to racist, it's a variant on the same basic principle. Get women in line by suggesting if they're not the right sort behaving in the right way that they won't matter.

I don't think the left has really clicked yet that the days of this working are over.

I am uncomfortable with the notion I'm against them because of their colour.
I don't care that one is a black woman and one is a brown woman, I disagree with (both of their) politics and think they are harmful to women.
Badenoch because she wants to get rid of the EA (in my opinion) which has done a lot to protect women (in my opinion)
Braverman because she cynically used racial tensions to stir up support for her agenda (in my opinion) whilst ignoring the systematic underfunding and misogyny that leaves girls in care subject to grooming and sexual abuse (in my opinion).

I also don't like Miriam Cates (white) because she seems to have a very regressive view of women's roles in the home and society (in my opinion) and wants to legislate so we all are encouraged to fulfil those roles (in my opinion).

I have a list as long as your arm of male MPs I dislike. And some female labour ones. But it doesn't often come up on here because there aren't the cheerleaders for those MPs in the same way there are for the above three.

I am about to raise a glass to the many fantastic scathing women around these parts and the difference they have made, including Ms Magdalen of 'I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar' and 'they chop it off, Alex' fame.

Another thread just started on FWR about this but hey, the Left like women right? go.skimresources.com?id=470X1716091&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.onlondon.co.uk%2Fhackney-labour-cazenove-candidate-for-council-by-election-suspended&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mumsnet.com%2Ftalk%2Fwomens_rights%2F4984297-labour-candidate-suspended-for-transphobia

Interesting for this

She wrote: “My embodied reality as a member of the oppressed sex class is experienced in a world where biology has a significant impact. You can believe what you want but I believe that biological sex is a real thing and neither law or some kind of new scientific concensus wld change that.”

It's very hypocritical, isn't it?

I suppose for me I don't think much unites women - only biology and patriarchal behaviours stemming from oppression of women (sexual harassment, belittling, exclusion, etc etc).

I'm as likely to disagree with a woman's opinion as I am with a mans. What I want is to see women treated with the same human rights, dignity and respect men enjoy.

To clarify, @AdamRyan , my statement wasn’t at all aimed at you- it’s charges I’ve read elsewhere that they are traitors of some kind.

Separately, I assumed the post aimed at Tinsel was a joke based on earlier posts. Are you telling me that was a direct personal attack on Tinsel?

It was definitely an attack. See that poster's earlier post on this thread.

That was my reaction, pickled, I assumed it was the poster being ironic / humorous. But from others’ reaction it looks like I assumed wrongly.

No it was a personal attack on tinsel.

Same. That's what happens when you post the opposite of what is actually occurring. People think it's irony.

I assumed it was serious. Risibly untrue, but meant seriously.

I have no doubt *flowers is a man or a Brighton handmaiden. MRAs both.
Sorry but not sorry but this was personal attack on Tinsel which was really bloody awful. Saying that we are scared of her? Codswallop.