Telegraph: Parents who refuse children gender change face seven years in jail in Scotland

[ResisterRex]

What to say? They'll stop at nothing. Women and children, and parents are just cannon fodder. Who cares if they get hurt.

For shame.

"Parents who refuse to allow their children to change gender would face up to seven years in jail under SNP plans to ban “conversion therapy”.
Proposals published on Tuesday state that actions designed to “change or suppress” another individual’s gender identity, causing them physical or psychological harm, would become illegal under the radical law.
SNP ministers acknowledged that so-called conversion practices often took place in a “family setting”, raising the prospect that parents could be criminalisedd_ if they refuse to go along with their child’s declaration that they are transgender.
Stopping someone from “dressing in a way that reflects their sexual orientation or gender identity” was put forward as an example of an action that would become illegal, even if a parent believed they were acting in a child’s best interests.
A consultation states that alongside new criminal sanctions, preemptive civil orders could be obtained against parents or religious leaders, even where conversion practices had not yet taken place.
The plans are the latest controversial measure put forward by the SNPP_. Critics argue the proposals would have a devastating impact on freedom of speech, privacy and family life in Scotland.
Religious campaigners have vowed to fight the ban in the courts.
“We have grave concerns that these plans will criminalise loving parents, who could face years in jail simply for refusing to sign up to the gender ideology cult,” Marion Calder, a director at the campaign group For Women Scotlandd_, said.
“They will also hand activists and social workers unprecedented powers to meddle in family life, while having a chilling impact on therapists and counsellors.
“If the SNP and Greens insist on pushing this through, it is likely to go the same way as the toxic self-ID and named person laws and be blocked in the courts.”"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/09/parents-refuse-child-gender-change-jail-snp-conversion-ban/

Ha! I just came here to post that article. Thanks for starting the thread @ResisterRex .

So they want to damage teenagers so badly they will put their parents in prison in order to have childlike future victims!? Why else?
Scotland needs to get rid of the snp and greens, how can they be so incompetent?

And what will Labour have to say about it?

Wow, that’s frightening. Very rarely do parents who have subjected their children to awful abuses spend any time in prison. And then to face 7 years for not conforming to some new ideology… I am speechless

I need to move out of Scotland. I'm so fed up of the nationalist totalitarian government.

Yet rapists can escape jail. Complete madness - and frightening.

Is this really how the SNP spend their days?

https://consult.gov.scot/equality-and-human-rights/ending-conversion-practices/

Scottish government consultation opens today.

Insanity

Communist Scotland strikes again, absolute madness

This is the introduction to the consultation process which has link to the consultation itself

The Scottish Government is committed to tackling marginalisation and discrimination in Scotland. We continue to promote equality and human rights and support strong communities that are inclusive, empowered, resilient and safe, where human rights are respected. This, of course, includes the rights of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex, plus (LGBTQI+) people. Read more about our work in our LGBTI and gender recognition pages.

Conversion practices are undertaken with the intention to change or suppress the sexual orientation or gender identity of another person. Conversion practices are harmful to individuals subjected to them. They are promoted within an ideology that views LGBTQI+ identities as wrong and believes that they can be changed. Their existence contributes to this way of thinking.

We are proposing legislation that protects people from the harm of conversion practices. In doing so, this will contribute to the broader protection of human rights and respect for the dignity of LGBTQI+ people.

Coninues at https://www.gov.scot/publications/ending-conversion-practices-consultation-factsheet/

Not sure if those outside on Scotland can comment.

This is insane. Have they thought of the effects it would have on the child, knowing that their change of gender has resulted in their parents going to prison?
Has society lost its mind?

It’s awful Parents are being told they don’t have to “actively” support their child’s gender identity but must not do anything to “suppress” it. They have even specified clothing, so, for example parents would not be able to tell their adolescent daughter that she may not wear a binder.

it also gives ScotGov the legal basis for self ID in schools. To date, ScotGov have danced around. The fact that there is no legislation to compel schools to support social transition. This changes all of that and makes child led affirmation mandatory.

Equally worrying is the fact that they are not just legislating around “conversion”. They are also legislating around “suppressing” which has a very broad meaning and places a chilling effect on parents, teachers and social workers.

I always feel a bit confused about the conversation therapy chat, as surely it could be argued that transing gay kids is exactly that.

This is just so awful

I fear the same here if we switch path

Should add, I have direct experience of the use of the term “suppression.” The Deputy Head of George Watson’s College said our referral to social services (stating that our daughter was at the threshold for child protection) was because of concerns around the impact of our “suppressing” our daughter’s wish to transition. We didn’t use male pronouns for her, allow a binder or agree that she is actually a boy. That appears to be “suppression.”

The current environment is bad enough for parents who wish to take a cautious approach. This Bill will destroy families.

I would strongly suggest not responding to the consultation until the final Cass report is published.

Just wondering, who are 'they' do you mean the TRAs or the government? and what do you mean by future victims?

I mean there must be snp ministers who have a vested interest in making young people permanently young with no sexual function or just psychopathic because there is no other reason to support this. Many many tras are open about this.

Will it be published before the closing date of the consultation (2 April)?

I’m so sorry to hear this, it’s all distressing

I’m just filling this in now it doesn’t ask if you are a Scottish resident.

Well that escalated.

Any chance of a group, dunno who, wings over Scotland maybe, getting a full page ad in a big Scottish newspaper about this?

Il happily fling money at whoever wants to. It really needs to be known about over the whole of Scotland.
Anyone told Alba? They might be able to get this out there.

I’m hoping so. Just before Christmas it was being reported that it was expected shortly into the New Year (or similar words). Even with a bit of a delay, that should leave plenty time before April.

https://temp-mail.org/

Google throwaway email if you dont like this one

This Bill will destroy families.

Aye.

That and even more children.