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Trans woman named as UK champion for Women's Rights by the UN....

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HootyMcBooby · 03/01/2024 10:55

Outrage as trans woman picked by UN to be 'UK champion' for women's rights (msn.com)

"I will use this role to further advocate for the progress, safety, inclusion and empowerment of all women and girls, of all communities and identities.
"I will continue to draw attention to the systemic and social impact of misogyny, transphobia and gender-based inequality within the UK — in order to help provide data and insight that contributes to forming tangible methods of tracking and countering it." (Munroe Bergdorf)

Really?
How's that going to work then, when you don't like women talking about their own fucking bodies and call it crap like "gatekeeping" and "biological essentialism" etc.

Also quoted as saying anyone can be a woman.

How are you going to fight for their rights if you can't IDENTIFY what they are and anyone can be one?

Actually, they should just identify their way out of oppression and inequality, shouldn't they?
After all, it's that easy apparently.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/outrage-as-trans-woman-picked-by-un-to-be-uk-champion-for-women-s-rights/ar-AA1moq0K?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=bef31ae70b8c40bab3e66876f7c3edd7&ei=12

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Waitwhat23 · 03/01/2024 11:00

I can't see it as anything but trolling by the UN. A punishment to TERF island essentially.

Waitwhat23 · 03/01/2024 11:12

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HelenFisksBrownSuit · 03/01/2024 11:13

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JellySaurus · 03/01/2024 11:31

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duc748 · 03/01/2024 11:35

As I said on MN recently, it's another day, another fucking insult.

StephanieSuperpowers · 03/01/2024 11:58

Hilarious. Someone in the UN must have a sense of humour.

duc748 · 03/01/2024 11:59

Also, following a side-bar link from that MSN story,

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/cycling/sport-pendulum-swings-towards-tighter-measures-against-transgender-athletes/ar-AA1mnjJP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=ed23bd6eeeca4064b040fe b2f1777bc6&ei=44

I suppose this is typical of 'mainstream media' reporting on the topic.

Are you, or have you ever been, an "anti-trans activist"? 😀

DrBlackbird · 03/01/2024 12:02

Waitwhat23 · 03/01/2024 11:00

I can't see it as anything but trolling by the UN. A punishment to TERF island essentially.

This was my thought. A big passive aggressive ‘Fuck you’ to gender critical feminists - but also to all women and girls - in the UK concerned about the safety, dignity, and privacy of women.

Bergdorf knows absolutely nothing about the fear of getting your period at school, being bullied or harassed by boys, or being forced to grow up wearing dress/skirts as uniform and being told you have to play netball, not football, let alone about the glass ceiling, misogyny in the workplace, the struggles as a working mother, lack of research into women’s health issues, etc etc etc

Who did the appointing? It’d be therapeutic to write them a letter.

A double tragedy in how Bergdorf has written about their family rejecting them as a gay effeminate boy. So with this appointment, the UN implicitly endorses transing the gay away on the one hand and says FY to biological women and girls on the other. I was always a huge supporter of the UN as an important institution for global security, but I’m beginning to wonder.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/01/2024 12:08

"Coffee drinker named as UN champion for UK tea drinkers".

Tea and coffee are pretty much the same anyway, they're all warm, brown and wet, they fulfill pretty much the same social purpose. Pour coffee in a teacup and who'd notice the difference? The UN have expanded the boundaries of tea drinking by finding someone who drinks coffee instead. They'll be the ideal person to represent tea drinker's interests.

viques · 03/01/2024 12:08

So , Bergdorf is pledging to fight misogyny eh?

I wonder how close to home that fight will start, any chance of it starting with Bergdorf apologising for the misogynistic comments and foul remarks about women, women’s bodies, women’s rights and women’s opinions that Bergdorf has splattered all over the internet like a bad attack of the runs over the last however many years?

I won’t hold my breath.

Waitwhat23 · 03/01/2024 12:15

Ah, I see the misogynistic monitors are out in force today.

JellySaurus · 03/01/2024 12:17

Yes, that was a quick deletion. For something which I would contend was a statement of fact.

TW are not women. TWAM.

TrainedByCats · 03/01/2024 12:21

Interesting though, the more they do this the more determined I am to spend my spare money funding legal cases to fight this shit

Waitwhat23 · 03/01/2024 12:26

It also becomes ludicrous and a clear sign of why no debate was so essential to the embedding of gender ideology. Compelled speech or be deleted/cancelled/attacked. Chant the mantras which you know to be false, or else.

Froodwithatowel · 03/01/2024 14:13

Unwomen unwomening.

HootyMcBooby · 03/01/2024 14:15

By the way Mumsnet, we are PERMITTED BY LAW to state a biological truth, namely, that trans women are not women. They are men.
And that it a legally protected statement upheld in court.

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Froodwithatowel · 03/01/2024 14:17

Maya Forstater. The right to state one's own perception that sex is a fixed fact. It cannot be any ruder to state a truth that someone may have consciously chosen to put aside than it is to require another person to put aside their own truth and state a lie they do not believe in, and which they believe is offensive and harmful.

HelenFisksBrownSuit · 03/01/2024 14:24

I see my comment naming Bergdorf as male was deleted.

How many times can I do this before I am banned? And then is MN liable for curtailment of my rights in law?

Sisterpita · 03/01/2024 14:30

What was the selection process, advert, essential criteria etc, that meant no woman was good enough to get the role?

ValerieDoonican · 03/01/2024 14:31

I stand with you Helen - not least because I adore your username.

But fgs Bergdorf is not only a bloke, he's a really blokey one too (in the worst way)

Lotrehin · 03/01/2024 14:38

This person is a bloke. How can he represent women?

EasternStandard · 03/01/2024 14:42

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What hatred is quoted here

Unbelievable

HootyMcBooby · 03/01/2024 14:44

I've also seen Bergdorf on some chat shows spouting the most misogynistic hateful drivel. They are not a very intelligent person despite having a "sympathy doctorate" from some university or other for "services to gender bollocks".

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Hepwo · 03/01/2024 15:08

The photo on the article is a fine bit of trolling. The reader is confronted with the awful pair of silicone beachballs this man is championing women's rights with. I suppose they are going to attract the attention of men. It that the UNs cunning plan?