New statistics realised of reported murders of trans people

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Thought I would post this, as it is a question that comes up on occassions.

Globally, at least 320 trans and gender-diverse people were reported murdered between 1 October 2022 and 30 September 2023.

Globally, 48% of murdered trans people whose occupation is known were sex workers. That figure jumps to more than three-quarters - some 78% - in Europe.

On the continent as well as in the wider global community, racism-motivated murders have risen 15% from last year - up 65% in 2022 to 80% now.

The vast majority of victims identified as trans women or trans feminine people and most of the murdered people were under 25 years old.

At a time of significant conflict globally, the fact that 45% of trans people reported murdered in Europe were migrants or refugees is especially stark.

TGEU say the data surrounding the murders suggest there are concerning trends when it comes to the intersections of misogyny, racism, xenophobia, and whorephobia.

The majority of victims were Black and trans women of colour, and trans sex workers - many killed in Europe were migrants or refugees too.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/trans-murders-remain-consistently-high-052004682.html

Sorry for typo:
New statistics realised of reported murders of trans people
New statistics released of reported murders of trans people

How many of the transpeople murdered were in the UK? Because I am always reading that they are the most vulnerable group in the UK. And have never seen any evidence of this whatsoever.

As far as I'm aware there was 1. Brianna Ghey.

Whorephobia. 🙄🙄or we could just admit that ‘sex work’ is dangerous.

And we could stop talking about this at global scale because it’s meaningless.

I’ve never heard of “whorephobia” before.

Doesn't mention the UK just Europe as a whole and it says... "In Europe, 16 people were killed between January and the end of September" @TheChristmasPig

Who are the murderers. Mostly people are killed by people they know. Are the murderers also trans or their partners?

Very good those numbers are pretty meanless. Please put it into perspective

How many sex workers in total were murdered?

How many women were murdered by men known to them?

As far as I'm aware there was 1. Brianna Ghey.

And so far no evidence the motive for Brianna's killing was due to trans identity - at this point Brianna is simply a trans person who's been killed. And the motive could be due to something else entirely.

Indeed. As it could for the 320 people mentioned in the OP.
I was merely answering the question of how many were in the UK, not making any assumption as to the motive.

It would be interesting to know how many of the victims were murdered for being trans. Vs being sex workers, or poc, or being perceived to be female. Or any other reason. Obviously it's wrong and c that they've been killed. But the motives would be interesting.

And a comparison against other groups. How many men have been murdered in that time? Women? Children?

Very late at night and just thought I would add link as by tomorrow would forget.

But obviously the stats (they do admit they are a bit ad hoc, and items which countries have "official" figures and which are from community groups) would have been better presented if they were compared to known statistics for the murder of those in prostitution.

But the superficial reports confirms what earlier reports have said, they it seems as likely the murders are as a result of profession, and / or race.

So to put it crudely if there are statistics on the number of people who have transitioned does it show that those are say, white, middle class (ie doing "safe" work) not reflecting the same % of murders of those who are from a minority ethnic group and / or working in prostitution.

Not sure if any of us are bothered to do that research for them, or can be bothered to ask them to put the figures they have collated in context of the murder statistic orverall in each country.

An estimated 47,000 women were killed globally in 2020. Just one year.

Why is it that 320 Trans people killed globally is considered a major event?

Over 4,000 children died in Gaza in a month.

Is this serious?

Why is it reported?

It is late terf so I cannot do a deep dive but a quick glance at UN site - stats for 2020 for women murdered globally was 47,000.

Do you remember any headlines about that?

I don't.

Slightly off tangent, how many manslaughters (sic) of women or trans people per year?

The reason is reasonable doubt. A person may intend to kill another but it is possible to argue reasonable doubt.

Not intending to derail the thread because murder, no matter who is murdered, is terrible.

it is shocking that 47, 000 women were murdered in one year! This statistic should be reported widely.

The number of dead children in Gaza is heartbreaking.

Between 44 and 90 people are murdered PER DAY in the United States alone. 21,570 murders in 2020. This is in one country.

What does gender diverse mean? Loads of my friends don't subscribe to gender stereotypes but they're not trans. They're just women who dress as they please and have a variety of interests and hobbies.

How can data be collected accurately when you have no definition of the meaning of words.

”or we could just admit that ‘sex work’ is dangerous.”

I feel this would be valuable.

I don’t know how anyone can chant about trans rights then turn a blind eye to the harms of the sex trade, even if they don’t care about women you’d think this would give pause for thought.

Why is it that 320 Trans people killed globally is considered a major event?
I think you’ll find it is only a major event over here. Horrible thread.

How can data be collected accurately when you have no definition of the meaning of words.

I think that part of it is an intention to muddy the waters, to sweep as many victims under the umbrella as possible, to reinforce the "most vulnerable, most oppressed," propaganda.

And I'm not saying that to belittle the unfortunate victims.

The thread is about reported statistical data.

The individual murders are terrible. Goes without saying.

But this thread is about the way the media report it - and this article wants to convince us that ‘whorephobia’ is a useful term (probably because it allows the pro-‘sex work’ lobby to ignore all the huge problems with their position and just blame ‘bigots’ for the dreadful outcomes for people who get entangled in the ‘industry’).

The total number of homicides globally is getting towards half a million.

If 320 trans people were killed globally that means of the total number of homicides, 0.064% of the victims were trans. We're often told that about 0.3% of the (Western countries) population are trans. On the numbers alone, this would not indicate that trans people are at greater risk of homicide than the global population in general.

All of this can be quibbled with, eg there are far fewer trans people than 0.3%, there's a large number of "hidden" victims. However, what's clear is that 320 victims is a small number on the scale of a global population.

I think you’ll find it is only a major event over here. Horrible thread.

This is one of the things used to emotionally blackmail women into letting males into their spaces, of course the figures are going to be scrutinised.

But this thread is about the way the media report it - and this article wants to convince us that ‘whorephobia’ is a useful term (probably because it allows the pro-‘sex work’ lobby to ignore all the huge problems with their position and just blame ‘bigots’ for the dreadful outcomes for people who get entangled in the ‘industry’.

Exactly, if people truly want to protect trans people from violence, one of the best things they could do is work towards reducing prostitution and offering a way out of it for people.

The trial into Brianna Ghey’s murder is due to take place in a couple of weeks time. Two 15 year old kids are being held, but the police aren’t stating a motive for the murder. We can’t at this stage say that the murder was Trans related.

https://tgeu.org/trans-murder-monitoring-2023/

Here's a link to the report itself from TGEU (Transgender Europe).

They make the dubious suggestion that the figures are only disproportionately high in Latin America because the monitoring is better there, implying they are potentially equally high everywhere else as they are in say, Brazil, where a third of the murders take place.

The Trans Murder Monitoring data does not include all reported cases worldwide, as not all trans and gender diverse murder victims are identified as trans or gender diverse in reports of their death. These figures must therefore be understood in the specific social, political, economic, and historical contextss^ in which they occur.

The high number of murder reports from Latin America and the Caribbean can be considerably attributed to the existence of established monitoring systems in these regions. The majority of the data came from countries with strong networks of trans and LGBTI organisations that conduct the monitoring.

Yes, but the U.K. has that too and we have hardly any trans murders at all.