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AIBU to ask why no one is shouting TMAM or wearing t shirts saying Adult Human Male?

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supercalie · 07/11/2023 16:26

Is anyone pushing the TWAW even questioning why nobody's arguing about whether TMAM or why men are wearing "Adult Human Male" tops or being threatened and physically assaulted by trans men when they got to talks about protecting men's rights?

Nobody seems to notice or care that men aren't bothered in general by trans men because they are in essentially zero danger from them.

Why isn't this lack of TMAM ideology not talked about more?

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Notcookie · 07/11/2023 16:35

Ask yourself why it is so important for some men to have access to women's and girl's safe spaces while knowing that it puts them at risk.

Some men (and women) dont care about a woman's and girl's right to the dignity and safety of same sex spaces.

It is seen as more important for men's feelings to be validated than women's and girls' physical safety.

The only logical conclusion is that men are considered to be more important than women.

Notcookie · 07/11/2023 16:36

And therefore TW are more important than TM.

itsfinallytime · 07/11/2023 16:36

Simple - they are female where as trans women are male.

Badatthis · 07/11/2023 16:37

I often wonder if women started using men's toilets, causing queues round the block, then the whole issue would quickly be put to bed so the men aren't inconvenienced by having to wait for a pee.

RudsyFarmer · 07/11/2023 16:38

Most trans men are still using women’s spaces.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 07/11/2023 16:39

No one cares about TM, because they are female.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/11/2023 16:42

However, transmen and 'nonbinaries' are considered very important when it comes to making descriptions of things only women can do 'inclusive' though. Hence 'menstruators', 'birthing parent', 'cervix owners' etc ... but oddly enough similar constructs seem far less important for men's health issues.

Funny, that.Hmm

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 07/11/2023 16:48

ErrolTheDragon · 07/11/2023 16:42

However, transmen and 'nonbinaries' are considered very important when it comes to making descriptions of things only women can do 'inclusive' though. Hence 'menstruators', 'birthing parent', 'cervix owners' etc ... but oddly enough similar constructs seem far less important for men's health issues.

Funny, that.Hmm

Quite.

Glamourreader · 07/11/2023 16:54

I did see a sign on male toilets advising that the urinals were closed for reasons of inclusivity once. Only once though so maybe men complained?

Nousernamesleftatall · 07/11/2023 16:57

Why are no women suddenly coming out as trans in their 40s and 50s? It’s just men. Is there a female version of Autogynephilia?

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 07/11/2023 17:01

Sport is puzzling too.

Everyone talks about the importance of inclusion in sport, and no one notices that fact that theres no space for TM anywhere.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/11/2023 17:03

Simple - they are female where as trans women are male

This.

The whole thing is a male sex rights movement.

What has a teenage girl who hates her body got in common with a grown man who gets sexually aroused by pretending to be a woman?

supercalie · 07/11/2023 17:07

Badatthis · 07/11/2023 16:37

I often wonder if women started using men's toilets, causing queues round the block, then the whole issue would quickly be put to bed so the men aren't inconvenienced by having to wait for a pee.

That's an interesting idea. They could remove the urinals for inclusivity and to make space for the sanitary bins.

What would actually happen if anyone suggested it is they'd probably just add urinals to the women's toilets Confused

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menopausalmare · 07/11/2023 17:11

Because transmen (females) are not bullying their way into men's spaces.

StaunchMomma · 07/11/2023 17:13

Because nobody is referring to men as 'gonad havers' etc.

The word 'man' isn't under threat, most likely because trans men used to be women and hence aren't used to throwing their weight around and having entitled tantrums to get what they want.

tobee · 07/11/2023 17:20

Nousernamesleftatall · 07/11/2023 16:57

Why are no women suddenly coming out as trans in their 40s and 50s? It’s just men. Is there a female version of Autogynephilia?

This!

tobee · 07/11/2023 17:20

And this:

"The whole thing is a male sex rights movement."

GoonieGang · 07/11/2023 17:36

ErrolTheDragon · 07/11/2023 16:42

However, transmen and 'nonbinaries' are considered very important when it comes to making descriptions of things only women can do 'inclusive' though. Hence 'menstruators', 'birthing parent', 'cervix owners' etc ... but oddly enough similar constructs seem far less important for men's health issues.

Funny, that.Hmm

Absolutely spot on.

Could start with banning the word testicles and replacing with ‘sperm makers’ or ‘sperm eggs’ 🙊

HumanSoapbox · 07/11/2023 17:41

Plenty are. And much older than that. I've spoken to several transmen and afab non binary people who have come out much later in life. Not everyone shouts it from the rooftops. And it's so much easier for afab transfolks to hide it or to pass as a different gender, compared to male born transfolks. So you don't hear about it all the time the way you do when it's transwomen.

Arbutusflower · 07/11/2023 17:46

RudsyFarmer · 07/11/2023 16:38

Most trans men are still using women’s spaces.

Evidence?

Arbutusflower · 07/11/2023 17:50

tobee · 07/11/2023 17:20

This!

I personally know at least one mature transman.

There is no female version of an entirely made up 'diagnosis' designed to portray trans people as perverts? Good.

Nellodee · 07/11/2023 17:51

Men pretending to be female and women pretending to be male are not symmetrical events.

Someone used a saying about this a little while back.

If a jug drops on a stone, the jug breaks.
If a stone drops on a jug, the jug breaks.
Whatever happens, it’s bad for the jug.

Women are always the jug when it comes to trans issues.

Tandora · 07/11/2023 17:52

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 07/11/2023 16:39

No one cares about TM, because they are female.

No one hates TM because they are men.

TheKeatingFive · 07/11/2023 17:53

The whole thing is a male sex rights movement

Basically this

GrumpyPanda · 07/11/2023 18:00

StaunchMomma · 07/11/2023 17:13

Because nobody is referring to men as 'gonad havers' etc.

The word 'man' isn't under threat, most likely because trans men used to be women and hence aren't used to throwing their weight around and having entitled tantrums to get what they want.

But they do throw their weight around plenty with regard to "chest feeding" and similar nonsense. Except those getting bullied by them are other women - they rarely try it on with men.