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AIBU to ask why no one is shouting TMAM or wearing t shirts saying Adult Human Male?

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supercalie · 07/11/2023 16:26

Is anyone pushing the TWAW even questioning why nobody's arguing about whether TMAM or why men are wearing "Adult Human Male" tops or being threatened and physically assaulted by trans men when they got to talks about protecting men's rights?

Nobody seems to notice or care that men aren't bothered in general by trans men because they are in essentially zero danger from them.

Why isn't this lack of TMAM ideology not talked about more?

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ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 07/11/2023 18:10

HumanSoapbox · 07/11/2023 17:41

Plenty are. And much older than that. I've spoken to several transmen and afab non binary people who have come out much later in life. Not everyone shouts it from the rooftops. And it's so much easier for afab transfolks to hide it or to pass as a different gender, compared to male born transfolks. So you don't hear about it all the time the way you do when it's transwomen.

More women are obtaining GRC, but its difficult to prove if they tend to be younger or older as statistics arent published by age and sex.

It easier for women to appear male than it is for men to appear female, but its also true that women presenting in a non feminine or masculine way is very usual. Therefore its difficult to know if they pass as the opposite sex or not. They just arent noticeable.

But these points dont distract from the overall point people are making - men entering womens spaces causes more social problems them women entering mens spaces. Women dont need to shout their gender fron the rooftops because no one is bothered by it.

Hereforthebunfights · 07/11/2023 18:29

I watched an interview with a detransitioner and he said transwomen were running towards something and transmen were running away from something which I thought was interesting.

EasternStandard · 07/11/2023 18:41

Because men are not less safe from presence of women

Women are from men though

In sports it’s obvious men will still have the advantage

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 07/11/2023 18:45

I remember some men complaining that sanitary products were being placed in the male loos, too. But these complaints aren't anything like as often and are spoken in more of a 'PC gone mad' way, than these men genuinely concerned about their saftey and dignity.

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2023 18:48

Hereforthebunfights · 07/11/2023 18:29

I watched an interview with a detransitioner and he said transwomen were running towards something and transmen were running away from something which I thought was interesting.

Did he go into any more detail about what he actually meant?

SheikhDjibouti · 07/11/2023 18:55

Arbutusflower · 07/11/2023 17:50

I personally know at least one mature transman.

There is no female version of an entirely made up 'diagnosis' designed to portray trans people as perverts? Good.

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Take a stroll through Flickr and you’ll see a whole heap of middle aged men getting sexual thrills from their fetish.

And since cross dressers fall under the Stonewall trans umbrella, you can’t really complain that about women quite rightly questioning the motives of these men.

MyEyesMyThighs · 07/11/2023 19:43

Hereforthebunfights · 07/11/2023 18:29

I watched an interview with a detransitioner and he said transwomen were running towards something and transmen were running away from something which I thought was interesting.

Yes - sexual objectification!

Young girls want to opt out if it and middle aged men to opt in!

tobee · 07/11/2023 20:01

"personally know at least one mature transman.

There is no female version of an entirely made up 'diagnosis' designed to portray trans people as perverts? Good."

Well all diagnosis are made up one could argue

Snoozysnoozy · 07/11/2023 20:17

Badatthis · 07/11/2023 16:37

I often wonder if women started using men's toilets, causing queues round the block, then the whole issue would quickly be put to bed so the men aren't inconvenienced by having to wait for a pee.

Because they'd still need to sit down to piss. Therefore the urinals would still be free

NotMyCircusAnymore · 08/11/2023 00:28

Transmen are women so less of a threat to women. I do think the whole movement is ridiculous and I don't use pronouns even with my friends who are not binary. I just use their name.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 08/11/2023 00:53

There is no female version of an entirely made up 'diagnosis' designed to portray trans people as perverts? Good.

So you're denying the acknowledged identity of people like Grayson Perry (just for one of many)? That sounds very transphobic to me.

PandaExpress · 08/11/2023 01:32

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 08/11/2023 00:53

There is no female version of an entirely made up 'diagnosis' designed to portray trans people as perverts? Good.

So you're denying the acknowledged identity of people like Grayson Perry (just for one of many)? That sounds very transphobic to me.

Grayson Perry is a f'kin idiot. I can't stand him. And that's got nothing to do with the way he dresses.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 08/11/2023 01:54

Grayson Perry is a f'kin idiot. I can't stand him. And that's got nothing to do with the way he dresses.

I don't disagree with you there!

Aria999 · 08/11/2023 02:47

Because men don't normally feel threatened by women.

Sueveneers · 08/11/2023 06:37

It's because the Gender Ideology religion/trans 'rights' movement is a overwhelmingly a Mens Rights movement. And putting mens wants above the NEEDS and rights of women is more important to misogynists and incels. They see these men as 'getting one over' women by accessing our spaces, which is why they cheer it on. Transwomen (men) are getting one over women and the misogynists and incels cheer it on. Transmen (women) are female, so the Meninists and incels of the Mens Rights/trans movement don't care about them.

Yorkshirelass04 · 08/11/2023 06:41

Because men know full well that transmen aren't really men and they have no intention of making space for them, politically or in any other way.

Whereas, We as woman are expected to make space for everyone as part of our political gains.

tpxqi · 08/11/2023 07:46

Because women pretending to be men is not physically or sexually threatening to actual men so they don’t care. While men exercising their fetish and pretending to be women is putting actual women at risk.

Sueveneers · 08/11/2023 08:27

Tandora · 07/11/2023 17:52

No one hates TM because they are men.

They are women not men.

Sueveneers · 08/11/2023 08:29

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Tandora · 08/11/2023 09:41

Sueveneers · 08/11/2023 08:27

They are women not men.

🙄🙄🙄🤬

Tandora · 08/11/2023 09:42

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Being trans is not “made up”.
Reported.

BarneyAteMyHomework · 08/11/2023 09:44

Badatthis · 07/11/2023 16:37

I often wonder if women started using men's toilets, causing queues round the block, then the whole issue would quickly be put to bed so the men aren't inconvenienced by having to wait for a pee.

Men would just find somewhere else to pee… 🤢

Sueveneers · 08/11/2023 09:59

Tandora · 08/11/2023 09:41

🙄🙄🙄🤬

Same to you with your denial of facts and biology.

Sueveneers · 08/11/2023 10:00

Tandora · 08/11/2023 09:42

Being trans is not “made up”.
Reported.

Everything is 'made up' at one time, but continue to try silencing and shutting down women like a dictator because you can't handle evidence and facts.