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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Good news from Caroline Farrow

336 replies

Imnobody4 · 24/10/2023 15:09

Just seen this .but sad to see it's still not over.

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1716759272124543029?t=NeEvuc83l8mrcnzUYVAEog&s=19

I'm delighted to have received notification from the CPS via Surrey Police that following my arrest in October 2022 and then again in April 2023, I will not be prosecuted for either malicious communications or harassment.

The CPS consider that the evidential test has not been met.

I am however still being sued for "misuse of private information" and I am very well aware that the complainant will inevitably exercise their right to review the CPS decision so I will say no more, at this stage.

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1716759272124543029?s=19&t=NeEvuc83l8mrcnzUYVAEog

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SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:17

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 12:11

Someone on there claimed they and kiwifarms have "evidence" against said trans woman. I asked for it, all you've been able to provide is a link that has people discussing a news article??

That wasn’t me - I just posted further discussion on the news story you linked and queried as to whether the KF thread was actually defamatory, as that is the claim made in the Guardian.

Maybe start a new thread, because this one is about Caroline, not Liz.

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 12:18

You do realise falsely accusing people of rape without evidence is a crime?

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:18

What are you talking about?

TWETMIRF · 29/10/2023 12:21

You do realise that it's possible for you to start a new thread rather than using an existing one about something different?

LarkLane · 29/10/2023 12:24

BezMills · 29/10/2023 02:36

Yay for a bit of progress. Flowers for Caroline and Dr Louise.

Not impressed with Sorry Police Force spaffing our tax money away being mugged off by a vexatious serial complainant. If the Useful Idiot cap fits, maybe they should go to a different hat supplier next time.

I wonder how much this has cost?
A FOI request at the end of all this would be interesting.

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 12:27

"and queried as to whether the KF thread was actually defamatory, as that is the claim made in the Guardian."

The Guardian didn't make any claim, they are just reporting on a successful defamation action taken against a provider that was hosting kiwifarms.

BezMills · 29/10/2023 12:28

Yes indeed I think it's the beginning of the end for this sorry saga. What an absolute shitshow. Sorry Police Force are at best Useful Idiots in this. At best.

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:32

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 12:27

"and queried as to whether the KF thread was actually defamatory, as that is the claim made in the Guardian."

The Guardian didn't make any claim, they are just reporting on a successful defamation action taken against a provider that was hosting kiwifarms.

Do you have the court docs then?

Make a new thread, please! you are our resident KF expert, having read the entire LIz Fong thread, you can do a potted guide.

Who was accused of rape? Who made the accusation?

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:33

BezMills · 29/10/2023 12:28

Yes indeed I think it's the beginning of the end for this sorry saga. What an absolute shitshow. Sorry Police Force are at best Useful Idiots in this. At best.

Surrey Force are lucky that West Yorkshire and The Met are beating them into third place on the embarrassing shitshow charts.

BezMills · 29/10/2023 12:35

It's still a podium finish on the Shit Policing Olympics

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 12:39

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:32

Do you have the court docs then?

Make a new thread, please! you are our resident KF expert, having read the entire LIz Fong thread, you can do a potted guide.

Who was accused of rape? Who made the accusation?

Innocent until proven guilty. The onus is on anyone making an accusation to provide evidence.

There is a 671 page thread on kiwifarms where very obsessed and hate-filled posters are calling a trans woman a "rapist" every single day. No evidence is being provided for this accusation and I haven't been able to find anything from a Google search.

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:45

Who is making the accusation though? KF are just repeating it, right?

pickledandpuzzled · 29/10/2023 12:45

But what’s that got to do with Caroline, Mumsnet or Surrey Police?

BonfireLady · 29/10/2023 12:45

BezMills · 29/10/2023 12:35

It's still a podium finish on the Shit Policing Olympics

Indeed.

Good point about the FOI request on costs @LarkLane Perhaps one for all 3 podium finishers is warranted.

The Reduxx team sometimes reads these threads I think? Maybe that's something they'd be interested in doing and presenting the findings. Or if FOIs have to be made by UK citizens (?), this could be filed by someone for them. Obviously some of it's still unfolding now but there will be plenty to go on already with what's already happened in all 3 police teams.

Chersfrozenface · 29/10/2023 12:48

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:33

Surrey Force are lucky that West Yorkshire and The Met are beating them into third place on the embarrassing shitshow charts.

I'm taking a punt on South Wales, myself

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:48

pickledandpuzzled · 29/10/2023 12:45

But what’s that got to do with Caroline, Mumsnet or Surrey Police?

Well quite! If it’s not Caro making that accusation (and from a quick Google it seems to be one of Liz Fong’s former friends) then it really needs a new thread.

BezMills · 29/10/2023 12:49

Caroline should at least get costs and I'd hope 6 figures of compo. All of which is to be paid for by taxpayers. Never mind the police time wasted, which could have been put to good use instead. The responsible Chief Super and PCC must answer for this.

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 12:50

Chersfrozenface · 29/10/2023 12:48

I'm taking a punt on South Wales, myself

Oh, good call.

SabrinaThwaite · 29/10/2023 12:50

It would be interesting to know how much this will cost the taxpayer - all those wasted man hours plus hopefully CF’s costs being reclaimed. I’m guessing it’s going to be well into 5 figures.

Meanwhile … Surrey Police has worst rape charge rate in England and Wales. Figures show just four out of 650 rape reports led to a charge last year.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/surrey-police-worst-rape-charge-26305195.amp

AlisonDonut · 29/10/2023 12:58

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 12:39

Innocent until proven guilty. The onus is on anyone making an accusation to provide evidence.

There is a 671 page thread on kiwifarms where very obsessed and hate-filled posters are calling a trans woman a "rapist" every single day. No evidence is being provided for this accusation and I haven't been able to find anything from a Google search.

Might I suggest that if this is the case, you get onto Jersh and ask him to do something.

I mean, you have brought Liz Fong Jones into the discussion here, not us. And you have now made us point out that Liz Fong Jones calling something a 'consent accident' are his words not ours.

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 13:04

AlisonDonut · 29/10/2023 12:58

Might I suggest that if this is the case, you get onto Jersh and ask him to do something.

I mean, you have brought Liz Fong Jones into the discussion here, not us. And you have now made us point out that Liz Fong Jones calling something a 'consent accident' are his words not ours.

Yesterday someone on here claimed kiwifarms had "evidence". I asked what it was and noone has been able to provide any.

Rape is an extremely serious accusation. Please provide your evidence.

SpiderMaan · 29/10/2023 13:07

Rape is a very serious crime indeed.

Not remotely relevant to Caro tho.

valorie · 29/10/2023 13:08

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 13:04

Yesterday someone on here claimed kiwifarms had "evidence". I asked what it was and noone has been able to provide any.

Rape is an extremely serious accusation. Please provide your evidence.

This is mumsnet.
Take your beef with Kiwifarms over there.

LarkLane · 29/10/2023 13:08

SabrinaThwaite · 29/10/2023 12:50

It would be interesting to know how much this will cost the taxpayer - all those wasted man hours plus hopefully CF’s costs being reclaimed. I’m guessing it’s going to be well into 5 figures.

Meanwhile … Surrey Police has worst rape charge rate in England and Wales. Figures show just four out of 650 rape reports led to a charge last year.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/surrey-police-worst-rape-charge-26305195.amp

Those rape statistics are shameful.
But then looking at the misconduct cases for for officers in Surrey this year, including the PCSO* sentenced to six years for indecent images of children, I'm sadly, unsurprised.

*https://misconduct999.com/south/southeast/surrey-police/

Surrey Police Archives - Misconduct999

https://misconduct999.com/south/southeast/surrey-police

Stephannee · 29/10/2023 13:09

ok let's talk about Caroline Farrow.

Is she aware there is someone claiming to be her on kiwifarms making a threat of violence? Has she given a statement on this?

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