Anyone in the middle?

[piesforever]

All I see on here is GC rants. I am in the middle, I support trans people but do agree they shouldn't take part in gender specific sport, and there needs to be more caution in "changing gender" for sure, especially hormones and surgery for young people. I do agree some are troubled or young people, who are hating puberty or have had some trauma. Let's support them overall though, it must be horrible whatever the outcome. Anyone else feel a bit of sympathy to both "sides"? In fact, why are there sides, we need to find common ground and help each other!! Instead of being furious all the time. It's not healthy.

Huh?

The only women not included in our feminism are the ones who aren't actually women, OP.

You know how like if your gay rights movement has to include and centre straight people it's not a gay rights movement anymore because it is no longer focused on people who are same sex attracted?

Well the same principle applies to feminism.

It's only supposed to include the people it is actually for.

How nice do you think we need to be to women who want to give away women's rights to men? Or to people who aren't nice to us?

If you're both sidesing this and you really believe you're in the middle then please link us to the post you've made on a trans activist forum telling them to be nice to people with cervixes women.

You have to love when the plopper replies and proves the point entirely.

Other women? They all know, you know, everyone knows that sex is immutable and matters. Gender is made up, and doesn't. That's it. Even the most rabid TRA knows. Pretending it's only a teeny subset of meany old wimmin is fooling no one.

@Kucinghitam...I recognise you from Another Place I think. Small internet!

If a men’s forum was having a heated debate, Pies, would you say “who are the crazy men on here?”

Women eh? They’re crazy when they get going. Hysterical. They need to calm down, dear, and put the kettle on.

CRAZY?! THATS NO VERY NICE AND FUCKSAKE AHM LOVELY HEN

You are lovely, Nic. Just the epitome of womanliness and feminism!

aw it was Quote Farming all along! Who'd hate thunk it.

'aggressive, single minded, unwilling to be inclusive or caring and not actually nice to women!!'

Sorry, OP, I'm just not that into you.

FUCKING RIGHT AH AM AND EMBDY THAT SAYS OTHERWISE CANGET IT RIGHT UP THEMSELS

Haha!

@RinklyRomaine A whole bunch of us left the Other Place about a year ago and can now be found lurking around MN (most have namechanged completely) but I keep this username for some topics. I'm curious who you are in the Other Place now!

@Kucinghitam I was a longtime starfish hand lurker and occasional poster but left years ago! I posted there like I post here - sporadically but I'm always reading. I have lurked there once or twice (after a chat with another long term ex poster) and was horrified by how captured some previously sensible people are.

So you started a thread. On which you've then read absolutely nothing, (or not been able to understand any of the long patient posts here explaining it all, plus the half the thread with a male demonstrating in live time the enjoyment of playing with non consenting women for personal experiences by using deception), and have just dropped by to shout 'sinners shall go to hell!', grab your rosary and flee, gabbling Hail Stonewalls.

You do you, love.... but thanks for proving 28 pages of points. Twas useful.

Repent motherfuckers! REPENT motherfuckers! REPENT MOTHERFUCKERS!

All with a tambourine for emphasis, of course.

And sage burning. By the lorry load.

Okay I take it all back and promise to be nice going forward.

Awww! I love kittens!

Im going out on a limb here, but i dont think piesforever was in the middle.

“It takes a great deal of courage and independence to decide to design your own image instead of the one that society rewards, but it gets easier as you go along.”

Germaine Greer

Now, is OP going to tell Germaine that she is not a feminist because she is single-minded, sometimes aggressive in her words and not inclusive of male people in her feminism?

"aggressive and single minded" is the kind of self-description some people put on their CVs to encourage others to employ them

Every time I see this thread subject in the list I think of

And it is gone. I didn't think that post would last hence I included it peicemeal in my post.

Every time I see this thread subject in the list I think of

thank you - tbh i'd have preferred it to stand.
Sunlight and all that

Agreed Bref.