Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 8

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language - This witness did not give evidence.

Witness for JP:

SE - Professor Sarah Earle, Head of the HWSRA

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

Thread 6
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4921308-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-6

Thread 7
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4922765-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-7

I was going to read the judgement tonight but actually I might only make it halfway down the list of OU witnesses!

Brilliant news! Thanks Jo and team for going through this to fight back against discrimination and to protect the rights of others.

Amazing result. Well done to all involved. 🍾

Same. Clue's in the username, innit.

Brilliant news! Thank you so much Jo for taking them on. Cases like this defend all our rights but you have to bear the brunt of it. Thank you.

Amazing!

A lot of scared people in the Green party leadership tonight they have three cases like this coming up.

Well done o and all the amazing people who stood with her. Lots more wins to come.

That's fantastic news!! Well done Jo (and thanks to the tribunal members as well, who saw sense). I am so pleased for you, Jo.

is this in any news outlets yet

Jo you amazing woman, well done.

Well done Jo!
All our fivers and tenners, every single donation makes a difference.

More good news!! Well done Jo for fighting the good fight.

I've looked through some of the Reserved Judgement - 155 pages of it! It's a litany of statements of not believing the OU witnesses, either doubting their good faith, their memories, or maybe even their veracity (but I'd have to read it more carefully to be certain about the latter).
Devastating. Clear vindication for Jo, and of 'WORIADS'.

One million times this. Jo, Allison, Maya, Denise, Rachel and now Roz (and more to come) are all putting themselves under unimaginable stress standing up for women's rights and child safeguarding. They are the modern day suffragettes because gender ideology is old fashioned denial of women's human rights dressed up in doublespeak

Thank you Jo. I was watching and cheering you on. When it comes to financing my child's university degree (trembles in slight fear) if she shows any interest in your subject I'll be strongly suggesting she head your way. I won't be the only middle aged Mum thinking this either.

I am so pleased - I was disappointed the judgement wasn't out in December as was hoped - it must have been agony waiting, but at least is has all come out right in the end.

At 155 pages long I can see why it took a bit longer than we had hoped!

Yay. Well done jo and her team 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🍸🍸🍸

Wonderful news!

EJ Young was clearly listening and hearing the same things as the observers.

if anyone is interested, “suck female cock” first appears in para 149 and makes a frequent return in subsequent paragraphs.

Do we think there are mixed celebrations at Old Square Chambers this evening?

Nice 2024 write up from Chambers and Partners and Legal 500. I think we'd all agree, "His cross-examination is particularly compelling." Should we ask for an 'Endorsed by Mumsnet" symbol to be added as an accolade? Specially designed with a tweeting support wren?

https://oldsquare.co.uk/people/ben-cooper-kc/

Do read from para 600 onwards. The OU staff come out of this very badly

He didn't used to be the Deputy Head of Chambers did he? I do hope he's got a nice big promotion on the back of all these cases.

I'm not great at digesting massive documents I do hope the skilled among us post the good bits. 👃

Fucking fantastic.

I'm about a quarter of the way through the Judgment and it's not easy reading for the OU. Or some of their witnesses.

I'd almost forgotten that. 😂

Truly wonderful news!