Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 8

[ickky]

Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language - This witness did not give evidence.

Witness for JP:

SE - Professor Sarah Earle, Head of the HWSRA

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

Thread 6
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4921308-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-6

Thread 7
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4922765-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-7

Opting for non pickled onions is of course valid, if you identify as non-brinery.

From @TwoDrifters2 on the last thread, we were discussing cheese and their accompaniments.

I am also concerned about @Emotionalsupportviper No one has heard from her since she went to try the ginger biscuit and cheddar combo. 😟

😂

"And did those feet,
In terven times . . . "

(That's my limit - sorry if I raised any hopes 😅)

I'm thinking it will be an unpleasant spin on the difficult bloody woman theme.

Thanks @ickky lets hope all goes well today

I spoke too soon, clearly busy on the ginger/cheddar thesis. 😅I am impressed with the diligence.

Thanks for the new thread.

Re ginger biscuits and cheese, I like Nairn's reduced sugar oatcakes spread with a little butter, with thin slices of Snowdonia Cheese Company Beechwood Smoked Cheddar, which is the best smoked cheese EVER.

Previous thread - I made a comment about pickled onions and someone witter than I (damn her!*) leapt in with a riposte about being "non-brinery"

*I wished I'd thought of it 😂

Pilgrim Tucker is still struggling to find a few seed potatoes.

This has got m wondering if you can actually buy cheese with crystallised ginger in it, like you can get Wensleydale with cranberries

Yes, but usually only around Xmas - so it should be appearing in shops shortly. Try M&S or a large Tesco.

I have an optician's appointment at 10.00 (I know - it was Mr Viper wot dun it) and will miss the start of what is bound to be a Very Exciting Day.

I will catch you all up when I get back.

Cheers, Binturongs

<tears up letter>

All cheese is good cheese (apart from Gouda and Edam)

Now I might have agreed with that (from the last thread) before I lived in Amsterdam for a while and tasted the delight that is properly aged Gouda.

Much mirth at non brinery and the cheese lols.

We have power cuts here so will be dipping in and out. Stupid storm.

My late FIL lived on Edam.

But he was a man who didn't like food with flavour.

there is gouda and there is gouda.

the atuff you can buy in uk is boring 'factory' cheese. the stuff you buy from the proper cheese shop in the netherlands is a different league.

I live in Amsterdam for a while too and agree about the cheese, it's very good indeed and some of the cheese shops are spectacular.

I've been in the cheese with ginger biscuits game for longer than the madness of denying the reality of sexed body game.

I particularly like a home made soft cheese [or a bought soft philadelphia style cheese without the processed taste] on a ginger thin.

I came for the Tribunal commentary but delurking for cheese and biscuit talk.

Digestive (chocolate or plain at own preference) +
Soft cheese, (Philly style or fresh goats) +
Top notch jam =

Cheesecake in this house

...trapped under two large cats he is unable to escape wand...

Abracadabra, get me outta here?

Whoo hoo. Rained off work today. Bad for my bank account but excellent for following proceedings in real time instead of catching up in the evenings.

@Emotionalsupportviper

You can get cheddar with stem ginger and whisky from HERE

or just ginger HERE

Morning and once again thank you @ickky for the new thread.

On a very personal level can I just thank everyone who have contributed to these threads with wit, poetry, song and knowledge. I don't know any of you in rl but, and I hope I'm not the only one, I feel a very real kinship on this board. Been around for over a decade and the sheer resilience and support to everyone fighting the good fight is unmatched.

*clears throat

As you were.

@TheSecretHistoryOfGoldfinchTartt try it with a biscoff instead of digestive.

Thanks ickky. Ben could of course have a very short summary - All the OU witnesses bar the last one are liar, liars pants on fire, cowardly bullies and care naught about anything other than the religion that is GI.

Bakingdiva oh my word. They have cheese hampers. That's Christmas sorted.