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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transwoman on being in a woman's ward

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ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 15:52

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

''When it came to washing my body or clearing up after me, I was entirely dependent on nurses. They saw, wiped and dried every last inch of me.
A few days before my discharge, two nurses came to my bed, pulled the curtains closed for privacy and asked if I would mind telling them what it was like to be transgender.

We started chatting and at one point I said: “If you took every woman in this ward, stuck us all into stirrups and asked a gynae to take a good look, they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between me and everyone.”

The nurses burst out laughing. “Oh, we know!” one of them exclaimed. “We’ve all been talking about it in the staff room. It looks just like the real thing!”'

...

'all humans begin their lives as female.'

I’m trans and fractured my spine – why don’t I belong on a women’s ward?

I look like a woman, sound like a woman and live as a woman, writes Diana Thomas. But the Conservatives believe, when in hospital, I don’t deserve the same kindness and compassion as other patients

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-nhs-hospital-ward-mixed-tories-women-b2423144.html

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usuallyanon · 08/10/2023 19:14

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CriticalCondition · 08/10/2023 19:14

Gosh, the batsignal sure has gone off somewhere. I wonder what it is about this kind of article that brings the visitors.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:17

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/10/2023 19:07

Is this a homophobic reference? I can't make sense of it any other way.

It does sound that way…

usuallyanon · 08/10/2023 19:18

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:21

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Thats a yes then

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:23

Oh no some dandom on mumsnet called me a boomer, whatever shall i do 😒

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:24

random 😀 dunno what a dandom is

RealityFan · 08/10/2023 19:25

CriticalCondition · 08/10/2023 19:14

Gosh, the batsignal sure has gone off somewhere. I wonder what it is about this kind of article that brings the visitors.

Maybe if someone invaded your home and told you about how fine it was, and there was really nothing to get upset about, you'd understand about the destruction of boundaries.

And the fact we can tell from his previous writings what his attitudes to women are.

And how the MSM are very happy to not only publicise the transgression, and even moreso, to celebrate it.

WalterHWhite · 08/10/2023 19:25

So articles like that is where my ds got his information on all foetuses are feminine and if they don’t have enough testosterone then voila! they’re really women. Would be funny if it wasn’t so dangerous

DogsAkimbo · 08/10/2023 19:26

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:24

random 😀 dunno what a dandom is

Male Random! 😆

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2023 19:26

Oh, good, they're away. Thanks, whoever reported the irritant.

I was going to explain to a pp who asked about 'bottoms' that that theory espoused by the poster who is no longer with us is best explained by the loathsome sexist framing of Andrea Long Chu:

'The “barest essentials” of “femaleness” are “an open mouth, an expectant asshole, blank, blank eyes.” - Andrea Long Chu'

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/10/2023 19:28

DogsAkimbo · 08/10/2023 19:26

Male Random! 😆

😀🤦🏻‍♂️

BlessedKali · 08/10/2023 19:28

I am so, so, SO ready for this shit to be over.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 08/10/2023 19:30

There does appear to have been in the last week a number of middle-aged male identified transsexuals writing to various papers about this topic.

I wonder if all journalists put something out there asking for these articles (I saw similar with Andrew Tate and how journalists at BBC, various papers all put out requests for articles in the same week).

Brokendaughter · 08/10/2023 19:33

Do all the other biological women regularly go round hopping their legs up into stirrups & comparing their labia like a XX version of a penis measuring contest?

It's not that I would take part (because I believe it's the sort of thing only some weird perv would think of), but you know, it hurts a little that I wasn't at least invited.

Worriedmum159 · 08/10/2023 19:33

DogsAkimbo · 08/10/2023 19:26

Male Random! 😆

I think it’s brilliant. Going to use it from now.

RethinkingLife · 08/10/2023 19:39

Brokendaughter · 08/10/2023 19:33

Do all the other biological women regularly go round hopping their legs up into stirrups & comparing their labia like a XX version of a penis measuring contest?

It's not that I would take part (because I believe it's the sort of thing only some weird perv would think of), but you know, it hurts a little that I wasn't at least invited.

Likewise never invited.

If invited, would decline at a rate of knots.

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Annisfinallygone · 08/10/2023 20:07

A male random is surely a mandom?

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CriticalCondition · 08/10/2023 20:24

RealityFan · 08/10/2023 19:25

Maybe if someone invaded your home and told you about how fine it was, and there was really nothing to get upset about, you'd understand about the destruction of boundaries.

And the fact we can tell from his previous writings what his attitudes to women are.

And how the MSM are very happy to not only publicise the transgression, and even moreso, to celebrate it.

I'm not sure if you are aiming this at me RealityFan. I have been reading this board for several years although I don't post much. There are patterns and I recognise them. As I'm sure do most of people who have been here a long time.

It is no surprise to me that this thread attracted a certain kind of visitor. It seems I failed to convey that to you.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/10/2023 20:27

crikey

i really dunno why newspapers are giving this guy and his consistently weird fantasies any airtime

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