Rishi Sunak - "a man is a man, a woman is a woman"

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..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

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AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

Honestly I’m starting to think this whole dumpster fire of a political row could be solved if we just had separate toilet facilities for female-assigned “gender critical” feminists (aka terfs) at every public venue. Then we could all piss in peace and move on with our lives 😄. I would support any party advocating for this intervention.

Wow nice whataboutery

Safeguarding rules aren't hatred!

The rules don't ban these people from living their life

"As for your reasonable Q: I want to see properly funded public services, single sex wards, rape prosecutions up, i want to see the GRC reformed so that the balance is put back in favour of women and girls, so men do not have the right to go into a DV refuge for example, with the onus on the refuge to justify their exclusion.

But overall, i believe that men in women's spaces is primarily caused by a lack of funding."

The part in bold... How do you feel about governments (Welsh Labour in Wales, SNP in Scotland) who refuse to fund DV refuges and rape support centres for women unless the include transwomen? Would you say that is lack of funding or a deliberate biological decision?

No you don’t speak for me so stop putting your warped and manipulative words (and incoherent ideas) into my mouth.

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Transgender hate crimes increased 11% in the last year. Wonder why.

Isla Bryson and the debacle in Scotland would be my guess.

And keeping males out of women's single-sex spaces doesn't 'stop them from living their life'. It may stop them from pretending that everyone else in the world is going along with the fiction. Tough.

Males who ID as trans. This is surely a statement of reality.

The vast vast majority of individuals who abuse are male. Therefore allowing males, whether those who are proudly male or those IDing as female into female spaces is permitting potential abuse. Unfortunately only one group of men are excluded.

Of course I don't speak for you, any more than you can speak for women.

I have for the first question, it’s clear to me that this issue has become far more prominent recently. Politicians are responding to it now

Well not all of them as some just refuse But the voter gives mandate for change, that’s how it works. This wasn’t a topic at last GE, it is now because more women are aware. I include myself in that, learning via mn recently. Women talking and getting the issue bumped up the agenda is a great thing.

As for wanting GRC reformed, I’ll take it you mean GRA to somehow exclude anyone who is not a woman and protect single sex spaces according to biology

Fine by me. I’m hoping the process now underway gets to legislation and passes. It will take time though

I mean it could be avoided if males just respected women's rights to safety, dignity and privacy, and kept the fuck out of women's spaces. You know, like decent men already do.

Mind you, when "transgender hate crimes" include challenging males in female toilets (Cardiff) and trying ribbons to fencing (Scotland), the figure starts looking pretty meaningless anyway.

If you want mixed sex yes I agree do that.

I’ll take the female only gladly.

Of course im not “speaking for women” I would never claim such ridiculous nonsense. Women are not a monolith.

Totally bonkers... have you a link to this actually happening now? i don't support Lab come hell of high water at all.

As is 50% of women needing DV support being denied it, 3 women a week murdered in a domestic setting.

A tax was put on panic rooms by the Tories in England, do they hate women that much? (fortunately dropped) but it was the law for many months first, women suffered financial abuse because of this, not too mention endangering their safety.

So now you are claiming that trans women are really just “indecent men”?

Yes of course. So why add to that number by making it EASIER for all males to access women and girls where they are vulnerable, and at the same time chiding women and girls for expressing discomfort at this?

Vast vast majority of women and girls raped and killed are raped and killed by non trans men

You could just say "men" and that would cover it.

You posted this a few minutes ago:

women and girls are humans, and like all other humans, we have the responsibility

Who is 'we' meant to refer to in this sentence?

I said that males who are decent human beings respect women saying no.

I’m not suggesting “mixed sex” no, but you can call your toilets anything you want, and likewise with the rest of us.

Wonderful that we have found a policy measure we can agree on to solve this. Let’s start a cross TRA-TERF wars coalition. Anyone else on board?

I’m hoping the process now underway gets to legislation and passes. It will take time though

If a Govt can halt a multi billion railway, i'm sure they can change the GRA if they want too & i'd like to see Labour put it in their manifesto if the Tories don't do it before the next GE.

We’ll have women and girls with the typical symbol

You’ll have to find something else

So you're now in favour of single-sex toilets that only women and girls, you know, the actual cunty types, can use?

And anyone else, who says they don't care at all about what sex of human they're sharing toilets with, can use the other, mixed-sex toilets?

Yes, absolutely on board with that. Delighted to hear some sense.

The “we” means’s that I include myself within the group “women”, because I am one (and I was also once a girl). That doesn’t mean I’m claiming to “speak for” women and girls. I’m well aware that some other women have different opinions on this subject.