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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Róisín Murphy 2

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WarriorN · 13/09/2023 16:58

New thread as lots of deeper discussions going on

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Biffology · 22/10/2025 23:45

Had a little look - this is next-level over what I saw in the friend-zone on fb ; 99% of what matters we're on the same page so I've done well but it's just that little bit of knowing someone personally, that I didn't have.

Great job done for someone in the audience to have a glimpse of all that but nobody actually knows who I am. Nice while it lasted. To be fair, knowing the person through the music is actually quite good to have and, in that sense, we allow the rest of it to take care of itself. I saw enough of the behind-the-scenes aspects to be able to walk away and know that this was somewhere I didn't need to be ; there was precious little I could do to help.

So not the end-of-the-world in the bigger scheme of things. Meanwhile, yes, she's doing all the things I told you she does, when I told you that she's on-the-ball and you need to bring your A-game.

BonfireLady · 23/10/2025 07:24

I've had a look through her tweets and the responses to them. Amazing stuff! She really is on fire and is not taking any shit 🔥💪

(As an aside, I died a little inside when my comment above, that was acknowledging a mistake in my spelling, contained a typo. I really should read things more carefully before I hit "post" 🤦‍♀️)

MarieDeGournay · 23/10/2025 10:37

BonfireLady · 23/10/2025 07:24

I've had a look through her tweets and the responses to them. Amazing stuff! She really is on fire and is not taking any shit 🔥💪

(As an aside, I died a little inside when my comment above, that was acknowledging a mistake in my spelling, contained a typo. I really should read things more carefully before I hit "post" 🤦‍♀️)

Online is merciless, BonfireLady.
That sinking feeling when you spot a mistake and you are a nanosecond too late to still have the 'edit post' option available...😱
But don't worry, we've all occasionally typed the wrong thing, we're not judging you because people in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones😃

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 11:38

I’m sure you’ve seen my contact lens free posting here before @BonfireLady, typos a go go!

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Biffology · 23/10/2025 11:51

Thought I'd pay a visit to Twitty/X.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 14:41

Powerful stuff.

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 15:09

latest post:

The mob is out in force. The more I see of this cruel “activism,” the more convinced I am that I do not want them anywhere near me or my music, however that may affect my career. I won’t be held to ransom—no more blackmail. What I see more than anything is a spoiled and entitled childishness. I am not interested in being their “mother” or “queen”; these babies need to grow up and allow artists like myself the dignity of opinion and the space and freedom to create. Or let them have AI pop star avatars that never question them. Let the music industry do its worst; let it continue to infantilize and exploit them. Let them have a hologram, perfectly designed for an insular, echo-chamber culture. Perhaps I’ve lived through the last moments of the best period in popular music and, in fact, it’s over—or at least it is at the beginning of the end. If that is so, I have nothing to lose.

Just for the record, I have zero hate toward trans people; I do not deny anyone’s existence. The post that has caused such frantic panic among the trans activist mob is a graph that shows a steep decline in trans and non-binary identity in young people over the past few years in the USA. My declaration “it was never real” refers to the contagion that was undoubtedly aided by the submission of the media, captured medical institutions, and social media derangement. Recently, this wilfully blind and irresponsible behavior has been curtailed to some degree, as more and more people affected by it stand up and demand a long-needed audit of trans ideology, which continues to stamp its boot across anyone who decries its negative consequences. Children, families, women, and gay people have all been adversely affected by the insane belief that one can change sex—the core hallucination of this destructive and insidious movement—while bad faith actors have lined their pockets.

The arts as a whole are a shadow of their former free and inclusive selves. I’ve had the most free and fun time possible making the music I believe in over the past 30 years. If being a compassionate artist is to be my downfall now, then so be it. I know in my heart that one day, I will be remembered as a brave person, both morally and artistically uncompromising. In the long run, that will be my legacy.

https://x.com/roisinmurphy/status/1981343085851246847?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Róisín Murphy (@roisinmurphy) on X

The mob is out in force. The more I see of this cruel “activism,” the more convinced I am that I do not want them anywhere near me or my music, however that may affect my career. I won’t be held to ransom—no more blackmail. What I see more than anythin...

https://x.com/roisinmurphy/status/1981343085851246847?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

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Biffology · 23/10/2025 15:20

I bring goog* tidings from X/Twitter
One of our number has popped over to respond and the, I quote, 'brave mums' have had an hello. Go over there and take a look ✌

................
*yes.

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 15:40

Not seen that but my god, the trolls are really out in force

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BeKindWisely · 23/10/2025 15:59

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 15:09

latest post:

The mob is out in force. The more I see of this cruel “activism,” the more convinced I am that I do not want them anywhere near me or my music, however that may affect my career. I won’t be held to ransom—no more blackmail. What I see more than anything is a spoiled and entitled childishness. I am not interested in being their “mother” or “queen”; these babies need to grow up and allow artists like myself the dignity of opinion and the space and freedom to create. Or let them have AI pop star avatars that never question them. Let the music industry do its worst; let it continue to infantilize and exploit them. Let them have a hologram, perfectly designed for an insular, echo-chamber culture. Perhaps I’ve lived through the last moments of the best period in popular music and, in fact, it’s over—or at least it is at the beginning of the end. If that is so, I have nothing to lose.

Just for the record, I have zero hate toward trans people; I do not deny anyone’s existence. The post that has caused such frantic panic among the trans activist mob is a graph that shows a steep decline in trans and non-binary identity in young people over the past few years in the USA. My declaration “it was never real” refers to the contagion that was undoubtedly aided by the submission of the media, captured medical institutions, and social media derangement. Recently, this wilfully blind and irresponsible behavior has been curtailed to some degree, as more and more people affected by it stand up and demand a long-needed audit of trans ideology, which continues to stamp its boot across anyone who decries its negative consequences. Children, families, women, and gay people have all been adversely affected by the insane belief that one can change sex—the core hallucination of this destructive and insidious movement—while bad faith actors have lined their pockets.

The arts as a whole are a shadow of their former free and inclusive selves. I’ve had the most free and fun time possible making the music I believe in over the past 30 years. If being a compassionate artist is to be my downfall now, then so be it. I know in my heart that one day, I will be remembered as a brave person, both morally and artistically uncompromising. In the long run, that will be my legacy.

https://x.com/roisinmurphy/status/1981343085851246847?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Wow!
Can't find an 'awe' emoji.

Thank you for posting for us non- Xers.

Following this and the court cases this week- it's just so wonderful to witness so many women publically standing in their power.

BeKindWisely · 23/10/2025 16:10

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 15:09

latest post:

The mob is out in force. The more I see of this cruel “activism,” the more convinced I am that I do not want them anywhere near me or my music, however that may affect my career. I won’t be held to ransom—no more blackmail. What I see more than anything is a spoiled and entitled childishness. I am not interested in being their “mother” or “queen”; these babies need to grow up and allow artists like myself the dignity of opinion and the space and freedom to create. Or let them have AI pop star avatars that never question them. Let the music industry do its worst; let it continue to infantilize and exploit them. Let them have a hologram, perfectly designed for an insular, echo-chamber culture. Perhaps I’ve lived through the last moments of the best period in popular music and, in fact, it’s over—or at least it is at the beginning of the end. If that is so, I have nothing to lose.

Just for the record, I have zero hate toward trans people; I do not deny anyone’s existence. The post that has caused such frantic panic among the trans activist mob is a graph that shows a steep decline in trans and non-binary identity in young people over the past few years in the USA. My declaration “it was never real” refers to the contagion that was undoubtedly aided by the submission of the media, captured medical institutions, and social media derangement. Recently, this wilfully blind and irresponsible behavior has been curtailed to some degree, as more and more people affected by it stand up and demand a long-needed audit of trans ideology, which continues to stamp its boot across anyone who decries its negative consequences. Children, families, women, and gay people have all been adversely affected by the insane belief that one can change sex—the core hallucination of this destructive and insidious movement—while bad faith actors have lined their pockets.

The arts as a whole are a shadow of their former free and inclusive selves. I’ve had the most free and fun time possible making the music I believe in over the past 30 years. If being a compassionate artist is to be my downfall now, then so be it. I know in my heart that one day, I will be remembered as a brave person, both morally and artistically uncompromising. In the long run, that will be my legacy.

https://x.com/roisinmurphy/status/1981343085851246847?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

I found it via nitter!

I love this response:

You’ve said what so many are too afraid to even whisper. The world confuses cowardice for kindness, and censorship for care. Your courage is art in its purest form - unfiltered, unbent, and untamed. History will remember those who stood still when it became dangerous to speak.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 16:48

If I tried to obtain an AI Roisin, I'd probably end up with the grandma from this (1m20 ) bashing me about the head with her handbag.

I'll stick with the real one. 😀

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Biffology · 23/10/2025 16:59

Quick quiz - the youtube video isn't playing.. So which video was it ? No peeking !

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 17:26

It’s working for me!

it’s going to be fascinating to see what happens next.

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MarieDeGournay · 23/10/2025 17:35

I know in my heart that one day, I will be remembered as a brave person, both morally and artistically uncompromising.

That 'one day' is now, Róisín Murphy💚

ArabeIIaScott · 23/10/2025 17:55

MarieDeGournay · 23/10/2025 17:35

I know in my heart that one day, I will be remembered as a brave person, both morally and artistically uncompromising.

That 'one day' is now, Róisín Murphy💚

Absolutely awesome woman.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 17:56

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 17:26

It’s working for me!

it’s going to be fascinating to see what happens next.

As I see it, we've had two years to set a course for the future - we saw things for what they were, back in '23. So, in that sense, we were quick-on-the-draw and those two years have been a gift to us, to think about the future.

Looking back on this thread, there's precious little of the kind of stuff that Roisin has now said she wants no more of, and quite a bit of what might be more useful, going forward - the kind of thing I reached for when I scribbled that Manifesto for the Arts - basic stuff that 'gives people their head' on making their work, as they wish to. Things we thought we could take for granted but now it's a statement to believe those things.

So be it - as it is, the mums of Mumsnet have had a wave hello on Twitty - someone thinks you're, and I quote, 'brave'. So lots of positives - you're her kind of people.

As for muggins, I'm happy I've played my part and I know what I did - and what I'll continue to do. I'm glad to have found you all on here and having been able to contribute, in a meaningful way, is a source of pride to me.

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ArabeIIaScott · 23/10/2025 18:00

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 17:26

It’s working for me!

it’s going to be fascinating to see what happens next.

She seems as well prepared as one can be.

WarriorN · 23/10/2025 18:11

Perhaps no coincidence that Rosie Kay and Jenny Lindsay have launched their arts (wtf is going on in the arts) podcast ….

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WarriorN · 23/10/2025 18:12

And Manchester pride has collapsed…

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Biffology · 23/10/2025 18:18

Hmm, you can't boycott someone and say they can't play at your event.. If you have no event to bar people from.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 18:28

ArabeIIaScott · 23/10/2025 18:00

She seems as well prepared as one can be.

And I'd like to think we've been working away at being elemental in that part of the crowd that goes forward to the future, as people 'escape' from that other space. We haven't been fired, in fact, we've been promoted.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 18:32

Those other people wanted a glove-puppet but we wanted an artist and understood what that meant. They invaded the space we allowed to Roisin and played their head-games, in that space. No changes for us.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 18:33

And, to put the tin-hat on it - a cherry on top - you've been recognised. Simply lovely, as they say.

Biffology · 23/10/2025 18:36

The 'brave mums' of Mumsnet - I'll drink to that ✊

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