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Complaints against NZ media not upheld regarding Kelly Jay Keen's rally

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LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 11:13

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia/

In summary, regulators have found it accurate for the media to describe KJK as anti-trans and to say that she has the support of Nazis.

Yes, Posie Parker is anti-trans, media regulator rules

A media regulator in New Zealand has ruled that news organisations did not breach standards by calling Posie Parker anti-trans.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia

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FrippEnos · 13/09/2023 11:27

Given NZ's support of the inclusion of transwomen in women's sports and women's safe spaces I am not surprised.

But I do feel that it should be pointed out that some was not upheld due to the media quickly changing the stories to something less biased.

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 11:40

I wonder if the NZ media regulator is a captured institution, much like the IPSO...

Helleofabore · 13/09/2023 13:02

Yes. We know it was upheld.

I suspect that in time ‘anti-trans’ will go the way of ‘transphobic’ and will be shown to be meaningless. Feminists have been called ‘anti-men’ by people for years. It doesn’t make it true.

I am not sure what your intention for starting this thread is, but women will just keep on campaigning as we have been doing. Denigrating us with labels shows that extreme activists have nothing left. Name calling, violence and intimidation tactics. Must be something they are proud of.

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 13:20

"We know it was upheld."

*Not upheld. All complaints were dismissed.

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Helleofabore · 13/09/2023 13:51

Sure. We know what has happened. Thanks for reminding us.

Got anything else to add?

IWilloBeACervix · 13/09/2023 14:12

Being pro-women shouldn’t be equated with being anti-trans, but if the NZ regulator is saying that, then they are also saying that being pro-trans is being anti-women.

if that’s their meaning, then I reckon KJK (and the rest of us) will live with that label.

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:15

None of this is "pro women" and you know it.

LGBT lives matter!

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SerpentEndBench · 13/09/2023 14:18

Who is saying LBG and T lives don't matter, please? I will shake my fist at them. Cheers.

Helleofabore · 13/09/2023 14:19

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:15

None of this is "pro women" and you know it.

LGBT lives matter!

Could you explain how it is not pro-women?

StephanieSuperpowers · 13/09/2023 14:21

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:15

None of this is "pro women" and you know it.

LGBT lives matter!

And so do women's.

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:40

SerpentEndBench · 13/09/2023 14:18

Who is saying LBG and T lives don't matter, please? I will shake my fist at them. Cheers.

Well Kellie's arrival in NZ was resisted against by over 2,000 locals who don't want her hate views.

Yes I know she has a "right to speak" but you're forgetting so does everyone else.

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Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 14:42

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:40

Well Kellie's arrival in NZ was resisted against by over 2,000 locals who don't want her hate views.

Yes I know she has a "right to speak" but you're forgetting so does everyone else.

How is that equating to calling her a Nazi? You can disagree with someone's views without labelling them with nonsense. Right to speak does not equal a right to lie.

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 14:44

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:15

None of this is "pro women" and you know it.

LGBT lives matter!

You know what else matters - truth, science, biology. How arrogant that someone can go through life never wanting to hear something they don't agree with.
If trans people are so fragile that they need everyone else to lie to uphold their feelings, then they have bigger problems than KJK.

PronounssheRa · 13/09/2023 14:49

Ah, is this the weekly give KJK a kicking thread

FFS

If you don't agree with her, don't donate or follow. The end

She really does live rent free in so many heads

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 13/09/2023 14:49

Meh

I enjoyed KJK’s statement at the end of the article

In a statement to PinkNews, Parker said: “I’m used to authorities siding with the authoritarians and so it’s no surprise that the ruling found in their favour.

“I’d rather the media refrained from lies and misrepresentations but I can’t say it occupies my every waking hour. I feel for the New Zealand women and families affected by this dishonest misogynist ideology.”

TheClitterati · 13/09/2023 14:50

NZ women also ahve a right to speak despite all the men trying to stop them.

NZ women will speak loudly & publically next week.

peanutbutterwoof · 13/09/2023 14:50

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Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 14:53

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C'mon the inference of that is pretty clear.

AnSolas · 13/09/2023 14:58

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:40

Well Kellie's arrival in NZ was resisted against by over 2,000 locals who don't want her hate views.

Yes I know she has a "right to speak" but you're forgetting so does everyone else.

I seen the videos of the police allowing mob rule and VAW.

And politicians cheering that on

And a male being violent to her to stop her speaking.

Cheering on VAWAG

Op. Let them speak👍

SquirrelSoShiny · 13/09/2023 15:05

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 14:44

You know what else matters - truth, science, biology. How arrogant that someone can go through life never wanting to hear something they don't agree with.
If trans people are so fragile that they need everyone else to lie to uphold their feelings, then they have bigger problems than KJK.

This.

And yes, some really are either so fragile or so narcissistic or both

FrippEnos · 13/09/2023 15:23

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:15

None of this is "pro women" and you know it.

LGBT lives matter!

So let women speak is not pro women?

And if all LGBT lives matter, why are so many TRAs against Lesbians?

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 15:55

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 14:42

How is that equating to calling her a Nazi? You can disagree with someone's views without labelling them with nonsense. Right to speak does not equal a right to lie.

Everyone has their own views, but AFAIK the NZ media never called her a Nazi(although their newspaper cartoons about her may be somewhat open to interpretation), they just said she received the support of Nazis at some of her rallies which was ruled to be accurate.

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LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 15:59

FrippEnos · 13/09/2023 15:23

So let women speak is not pro women?

And if all LGBT lives matter, why are so many TRAs against Lesbians?

Are you talking about lesbians as a whole or are you referring specifically to notable anti-trans lesbians who are in the British media non-stop Julie Bindel and the Stock prof woman whom her students wanted rid of? If so this is specifically because of their anti-trans views which can be viewed as hateful, nothing at all to do with their sexuality.

I can assure you the number of lesbians(and gay men) who support trans-rights far outnumber the TERF ones, especially amongst the younger generations.

Stop trying to make out the gay and bi community is on your side, the vast majority of it is not.

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Froodwithatowel · 13/09/2023 16:01

I'm still looking for any evidence anywhere of this Nazi faction passionately in favour of women, girls and lesbian rights....

Datun · 13/09/2023 16:07

I can assure you the number of lesbians(and gay men) who support trans-rights far outnumber the TERF ones, especially amongst the younger generations.

Absolutely. Lesbians should just learn to cope with dick. Especially the younger generations.

And certainly every gay man I know loves a bit of cunnilingus. Just look at Owen Jones.