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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Complaints against NZ media not upheld regarding Kelly Jay Keen's rally

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LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 11:13

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia/

In summary, regulators have found it accurate for the media to describe KJK as anti-trans and to say that she has the support of Nazis.

Yes, Posie Parker is anti-trans, media regulator rules

A media regulator in New Zealand has ruled that news organisations did not breach standards by calling Posie Parker anti-trans.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia

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LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 18:01

AlisonDonut · 13/09/2023 17:51

The 'Nazis' that turned up outside the Australian parliament had signs saying they were against Paedos.

It's only trans activists that think that was about them. And we can't say why that would be.

..... and Jews, and gay people, and trans people etc etc etc.

I think we all know what Nazi ideology is all about.

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SinnerBoy · 13/09/2023 18:06

I wonder why the Trans Extremist Zealots chose to attend an event with Nazis? It must mean that the TEZs are Nazis, according to their own reasoning.

Datun · 13/09/2023 18:07

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 17:55

Well the comment about people being sterilised I completely disagree with her on.
As for the so called 'transphobia' you are clutching at straws and you know it.

But thanks for the 'receipts'...

As usual it's all out of context. I vaguely remember it.

in fact, I've just searched for this post that I made about it.

"Posie was responding to a transman or transmen having a meltdown because being pregnant meant that it clashed ideologically with them being a man and it was triggering.

Posie is not only opposed to transgender ideology, she sees it as 100%, actively harmful. She was goaded beyond endurance that someone was ranting to her about how triggering something is that she is 100% opposed to in the first place.

It was said in exasperation as she was almost being blamed for the effects of something that she disagrees with anyway.

I'm pretty certain that Posey does not think all trans people should be sterilised."

Course, goading someone into an exasperated comment, is the entire purpose of TRA trolling.

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 18:08

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ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 18:08

Who are these Australian Nazis? Do they often turn up to public events?

ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 18:09

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No, they're not.

This is playground level discourse, you know.

Would you rather have a proper conversation?

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 18:10

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 18:01

..... and Jews, and gay people, and trans people etc etc etc.

I think we all know what Nazi ideology is all about.

Again what the hell does this have to do with KJK? Saying you are against gender ideology is nothing to do with hating other groups - you are being ridiculous.

Do you really think you are going to change anybody's mind here, by throwing enough mud at her? We are not stupid, we can see clearly the silly accusations for what they are. None of this changes the fact that humans cannot change sex. Throwing insults and tedious links to fascism etc. is just a pointless distraction.

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 18:11

SinnerBoy · 13/09/2023 18:06

I wonder why the Trans Extremist Zealots chose to attend an event with Nazis? It must mean that the TEZs are Nazis, according to their own reasoning.

Yes, good point. If that's the rule - that you are generally in the same geographical location then they must be....sound logic there.

ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 18:16

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 18:10

Again what the hell does this have to do with KJK? Saying you are against gender ideology is nothing to do with hating other groups - you are being ridiculous.

Do you really think you are going to change anybody's mind here, by throwing enough mud at her? We are not stupid, we can see clearly the silly accusations for what they are. None of this changes the fact that humans cannot change sex. Throwing insults and tedious links to fascism etc. is just a pointless distraction.

I presume said poster is in their teens.

Helleofabore · 13/09/2023 18:18

ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 18:08

Who are these Australian Nazis? Do they often turn up to public events?

They have turned up to several rallies and protests. Along with Antifa… strange that. That both groups end up being present. Almost like the NSN find out where Antifa is and, you know, turn up to provoke them carry signage that will guarantee that Antifa are antagonized!!!!

Here is one

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/489845/unspeakably-un-australian-federal-government-slams-melbourne-neo-nazi-protesters

'Unspeakably un-Australian': Federal government slams Melbourne neo-Nazi protesters

Violent clashes have erupted between anti-immigration protesters using the Nazi salute and counter protesters outside the Victorian Parliament in Melbourne.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/489845/unspeakably-un-australian-federal-government-slams-melbourne-neo-nazi-protesters

JanesLittleGirl · 13/09/2023 18:41

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 18:01

..... and Jews, and gay people, and trans people etc etc etc.

I think we all know what Nazi ideology is all about.

So KJK is an anti-Semitic white supremacist who believes in a single party state and nationalisation of the banks, major manufacturers and primary infrastructure. Hmm... do tell me more.

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 18:43

JanesLittleGirl · 13/09/2023 18:41

So KJK is an anti-Semitic white supremacist who believes in a single party state and nationalisation of the banks, major manufacturers and primary infrastructure. Hmm... do tell me more.

Indeed, who knew one woman could be so busy...

MavisMcMinty · 13/09/2023 18:44

If believing sex is immutable = transphobic, I am transphobic.

If believing children and teenagers should not be rendered sterile and anorgasmic = transphobic, I am transphobic.

If believing men should stay out of my single-sex spaces = transphobic, I am transphobic.

I’m really fine with being a transphobe if that’s how you’re defining the word, because it’s as meaningless as a religious person calling me a heathen or an infidel.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2023 18:48

a statement to PinkNews, Parker said: “I’m used to authorities siding with the authoritarians and so it’s no surprise that the ruling found in their favour.

I’d rather the media refrained from lies and misrepresentations but I can’t say it occupies my every waking hour. I feel for the New Zealand women and families affected by this dishonest misogynist ideology.”

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Froodwithatowel · 13/09/2023 19:07

MavisMcMinty · 13/09/2023 18:44

If believing sex is immutable = transphobic, I am transphobic.

If believing children and teenagers should not be rendered sterile and anorgasmic = transphobic, I am transphobic.

If believing men should stay out of my single-sex spaces = transphobic, I am transphobic.

I’m really fine with being a transphobe if that’s how you’re defining the word, because it’s as meaningless as a religious person calling me a heathen or an infidel.

Yup. I'm also Spartacus.

And a lot more concerned with the things on this list than on someone's approval on the internet.

Helleofabore · 13/09/2023 19:19

DadJoke · 13/09/2023 16:55

"In summary, regulators have found it accurate for the media to describe KJK as anti-trans and to say that she has the support of Nazis."

No shit. Neo-nazis were there supporting her, and aside from the fact that KJK has said transgender people should be sterilised (which I guess even GC people would think is transphobic), PP has stated herself that she is transphobic.

You know the neo Nazis changed their story once they found out it was a feminist rally, don’t you? They point blank said they don’t support feminists if I remember correctly?

Can you tell us all why neo- Nazis would support feminists? Or are you about to forget that the women who actually organised the rally were Australian feminists and not Kellie Jay Keen who merely publicised it?

And while we are here, care to tell us how Angie Jones, a Jewish feminist, was being supported by the neo Nazis? And Moira Deeming, who was raised by Holocaust survivors?

Or are you just going to cling to your misinformation and keep peddling it?

And if you are going to keep peddling your misinformation, that is fine… we will just keep posting how deeply entrenched in prejudice you are about this particular topic.

AgnestaVipers · 13/09/2023 20:22

If being opposed to the sterilisation of gay and autistic people is a nazi trait, then the current batch of nazis are in a right muddle.

Abccde · 13/09/2023 20:32

I think when you dehumanise women and call them horrible slurs and names because they want single sex spaces to remain- it's easier to justify the horrific and aggressive behaviour that is part of trans activitism.

Woman doesnt agree with me so they are anti trans. Woman doesn't agree with me so they are evil. Women doesn't agree with me so they are a Nazi.

It's only men who don't agree with me. All women agree with me, so any woman who doesn't agree with me isn't really a woman.

If they are not really a woman, I'm not really been that horrid by calling them a Nazi, a bigot, transphobic am I?

I suspect many have had a similar conversation in their head whilst being so so hateful and misogynistic to women.

And NZ - they are so far gone it's unreal.

AgnestaVipers · 13/09/2023 20:36

NZ, Australia, Canada. All gone soft in the head.

ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 20:39

Helleofabore · 13/09/2023 18:18

They have turned up to several rallies and protests. Along with Antifa… strange that. That both groups end up being present. Almost like the NSN find out where Antifa is and, you know, turn up to provoke them carry signage that will guarantee that Antifa are antagonized!!!!

Here is one

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/489845/unspeakably-un-australian-federal-government-slams-melbourne-neo-nazi-protesters

Bloody hell. What very weird logic they have.

DogsAkimbo · 13/09/2023 20:41

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 14:40

Well Kellie's arrival in NZ was resisted against by over 2,000 locals who don't want her hate views.

Yes I know she has a "right to speak" but you're forgetting so does everyone else.

Yet here you are.

SinnerBoy · 13/09/2023 20:44

Farmageddon · Today 18:11

Yes, good point. If that's the rule - that you are generally in the same geographical location then they must be....sound logic there.

I was going to use the word logic, but my brain started doing gymnastics. I should have written "reasoning," shouldn't I?

Farmageddon · 13/09/2023 20:53

SinnerBoy · 13/09/2023 20:44

Farmageddon · Today 18:11

Yes, good point. If that's the rule - that you are generally in the same geographical location then they must be....sound logic there.

I was going to use the word logic, but my brain started doing gymnastics. I should have written "reasoning," shouldn't I?

Haha, I have no idea, maybe I should have said reasoning as well. I was agreeing with you anyway.

AlisonDonut · 13/09/2023 20:56

LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 18:01

..... and Jews, and gay people, and trans people etc etc etc.

I think we all know what Nazi ideology is all about.

Perhaps you need to start your campaign against the actual Nazis then, and the police officer whose son was actually amongst them, rather than a woman who has absolutely nothing to do with them?

Just a thought.

Datun · 13/09/2023 20:56

JanesLittleGirl · 13/09/2023 18:41

So KJK is an anti-Semitic white supremacist who believes in a single party state and nationalisation of the banks, major manufacturers and primary infrastructure. Hmm... do tell me more.

IKR?? And I thought she just didn't want blokes getting their cocks out in front of her teenage daughter.

Who knew?