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Complaints against NZ media not upheld regarding Kelly Jay Keen's rally

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LizaBizza · 13/09/2023 11:13

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia/

In summary, regulators have found it accurate for the media to describe KJK as anti-trans and to say that she has the support of Nazis.

Yes, Posie Parker is anti-trans, media regulator rules

A media regulator in New Zealand has ruled that news organisations did not breach standards by calling Posie Parker anti-trans.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia

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Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 13:07

Just posting this video for anyone interested in what happened in Melbourne. I am about to watch it myself.

https://x.com/flyinggender/status/1703162479571066942?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

https://x.com/flyinggender/status/1703162479571066942?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 13:46

At 32 mins Thomas Sewell states clearly that those men were NOT ALLIES of the women!

In fact, he claims that one of their intentions was to force the Liberal Party to investigate and disrupt Moira Deeming .

Before that, this YouTuber has picked out what Sewell said while he had the megaphone and was speaking over the LWS speakers. Sewell says they are there to support the women who they protest with each week for the past three years.

meaning the women from the other group that were there on the day. (A group I pointed out on other threads from other video feeds.)

But gosh… apparently uninformed activist posters will continue to propagate their misinformation to suit their agenda. Even when the actual neo-nazi leader denies the connection.

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 13:52

Here it is on YouTube.

Look, some of what this person says is questionable. But I am watching it to see the footage and what he has pieced together from different feeds. As always, I recommend checking everything for yourself.

Who Framed Kellie-Jay Keen: What REALLY happened at #LetWomenSpeakMelbourne in tedious detail!

This was a challenge to make. At one point it seemed like something in the file had become corrupted and I wasn't going to be able to finish it. So yeah, the...

https://youtu.be/MIx-EG7znhs?feature=shared

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 14:16

I think that this YouTuber has made the connection as to how the National socialist Network got into the that section and was allowed to stand on the steps! They were there as part of the other group that protest there every week. Those people
have a permit and this seems to have worked out how this happened.

There was another group that Rukshan identified in his video who seem to be part of that group that is there every week who were speaking into megaphones about protecting children. They were completely separate to LWS though. It is clear now that Sewell states they are part of the group that had been there every week.

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 15:00

It seems to be confirmed again at 1 hour and 15 approximately that the National Socialist Network was part of the other permitted group because at the same time that KJK took the mic to start at the LWS a
permitted time, Sewell makes an announcement about ‘for those here for the ‘protect the children’ group to start at their permitted time.

At around 1 hour 15 mins into the video.

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 16:53

Yeah... I think we can be more confident about who those men were supporting. And it wasn't the Let Women Speak group. It was the other group, here they are making violent threats about DQST - something that none of the women's groups have done because they don't want to frighten children.

https://x.com/9NewsMelb/status/1654036701038415872?s=20

https://x.com/9NewsMelb/status/1654036701038415872?s=20

DerekFaker · 20/09/2023 20:47

NZ is as scary as Canada and Scotland.

" "Free speech is a weapon of war" apparently. Jacinta Arden calls for censorship of those with the wrong options. You will believe in their war and their climate change or you will be held accountable and shut down.

The road to hell is built by sanctimonious liars."

https://twitter.com/BB_Baskin/status/1704552564199510229?t=I5phZ2NjOas0Wizkw4hV2Q&s=19

https://twitter.com/BB_Baskin/status/1704552564199510229?s=19&t=I5phZ2NjOas0Wizkw4hV2Q

Wahinewontwheesht · 20/09/2023 23:00

Can she even hear herself? The Labour government have handed out so much money to MSM in NZ who in turn have promoted misinformation and disinformation, stifling the free speech she “values so much”.

Authoritarianism in plain sight Derek . It is very frightening how people are falling for this sh*te.

DiabolicalFinial · 21/09/2023 14:46

Interesting article about Nazis in Melbourne - specifically where it states

“In March, around 30 neo-Nazis performed the Nazi salute on the steps of parliament in Melbourne’s CBD after crashing a rally by anti-transgender activist Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, who goes by the moniker Posie Parker.”

“It was not suggested Ms Keen-Minshull had any link to the group.”

“Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews took to Twitter after the event to slam the “anti-trans activists” who had “gathered to spread hate”.”

Still referring to KJK as an ‘anti-trans activist’, then stating KJK was not suggested to have links to the Nazi group!

Then tacking on the kicker of the Victorian Premier stating that ‘anti-trans activists’ (which they continue to incorrectly describe KJK as) were spreading hate.

Logic does not exist here.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/neonazis-brawl-with-antifa-in-melbourne/news-story/89d0bbb32afe85d0141a5b3abfd24cfc

DerekFaker · 22/09/2023 08:24

"Here is a section of the testimony from @ThePosieParker's security detail at Albert Park.

I personally witnessed much of this and assert that it is a true account."

#NZPol #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LetWomenSpeakAuckland

https://twitter.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1704893393334419868?t=iuV3OOOKGbTYsLrckHzyZQ&s=19

Complaints against NZ media not upheld regarding Kelly Jay Keen's rally
Clymene · 22/09/2023 08:27

DerekFaker · 22/09/2023 08:24

"Here is a section of the testimony from @ThePosieParker's security detail at Albert Park.

I personally witnessed much of this and assert that it is a true account."

#NZPol #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LetWomenSpeakAuckland

https://twitter.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1704893393334419868?t=iuV3OOOKGbTYsLrckHzyZQ&s=19

Jesus. That's a scary read and I've watched the video

Froodwithatowel · 22/09/2023 08:59

Clymene · 22/09/2023 08:27

Jesus. That's a scary read and I've watched the video

It is a very scary read. Without that man, or if things had not gone to plan, you're left wondering what those mad thugs would have done had they managed to get hold of her, and it looks very like she would have been battered to death. And quite possibly the people trying to protect her too.

There is absolutely no excuse for this, no excuse or justification that makes this animal violence and mania ok.

Datun · 22/09/2023 09:35

DerekFaker · 22/09/2023 08:24

"Here is a section of the testimony from @ThePosieParker's security detail at Albert Park.

I personally witnessed much of this and assert that it is a true account."

#NZPol #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LetWomenSpeakAuckland

https://twitter.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1704893393334419868?t=iuV3OOOKGbTYsLrckHzyZQ&s=19

That is utterly petrifying. These people are bloody animals. And it's even worse that the authorities and media side with them, to all intents and purposes.

But the police, the bloody police! Just abandoned all those women.

KJK has said that the police presence was simply absent. Has she got to the bottom of that yet?

She owes her life to those security guards. And I know that's their job, to guard her, but bloody hell what bravery.

Helleofabore · 22/09/2023 09:35

I cannot believe there are posters who still dismiss violence against women. Who declare that a cream pie to the face is just comedy, that silly string sprayed on women is not violence etc. The poster who did this likes to change their username but their constant dismissal of the violence and the the dismissal of the lack of police response or of lack of conviction for those doing the acts still continues.

But this is not just one poster, there are many who behave like this. And it seems some activist protestors in NZ believe they have police on their side.

Maybe because of trans person who ‘reported’ there was no violence and dismissed what was happening. The police force was indeed heavily influenced by that officer, I would hope they are removed from a position of influence after this. However, the issue remains as we saw in this week’s video of those same activists pushing powerfully against two lines of interlinked police.

If those police had not been able to hold them back, the women once again would be in danger. Yet, some people around the world applaud the actions of these violent protestors. Look at what happened in San Francisco and in the city of Victoria, Canada just this past week.

That is a truly shocking read. Truly vile actions from pumped up activists and even viler actions from a police force who put a person with a lack of perspective and a lack of balance in a decision making or at least decision influencing, position. Ie provison of police in that instance for a very hostile situation.

Datun · 22/09/2023 09:41

It doesn't even make these politicians blink that their towns and countries have to provide a massively heavily police presence to hold back rabid men, their rabid men, from violently attacking women, their women.

What the ever loving fuck goes on on their heads??

Clymene · 22/09/2023 09:52

I'm certain they would have killed her @Froodwithatowel

Helleofabore · 22/09/2023 10:00

Datun · 22/09/2023 09:41

It doesn't even make these politicians blink that their towns and countries have to provide a massively heavily police presence to hold back rabid men, their rabid men, from violently attacking women, their women.

What the ever loving fuck goes on on their heads??

They have been told the violence is righteous. And that to condemn these people would be to ‘add to their burdens as the most vulnerable and marginalised’. Not one lobby group ever addresses the violence of the group they support. Not one spokesperson says, “I condemn these actions, protest truly peacefully and stop the intimidation tactics or the drowning out tactics.” Not one.

Yet, apparently women are responsible for it all! And have to denounce any person who says something deplorable, even when they are not part of any ‘group’.

The bizarre lack of symmetry really is getting more and more noticeable to the wider population.

MargotBamborough · 22/09/2023 10:04

Helleofabore · 22/09/2023 10:00

They have been told the violence is righteous. And that to condemn these people would be to ‘add to their burdens as the most vulnerable and marginalised’. Not one lobby group ever addresses the violence of the group they support. Not one spokesperson says, “I condemn these actions, protest truly peacefully and stop the intimidation tactics or the drowning out tactics.” Not one.

Yet, apparently women are responsible for it all! And have to denounce any person who says something deplorable, even when they are not part of any ‘group’.

The bizarre lack of symmetry really is getting more and more noticeable to the wider population.

The people who burned women at the stake believed their violence was righteous too.

And yeah, the double standards. We are somehow responsible for Matt Walsh, and by extension, for the spread of right wing conservatism in the US depriving women of their right to an abortion, but they aren't responsible for actual violence against women committed by trans people and trans activists.

Datun · 22/09/2023 14:01

The bizarre lack of symmetry really is getting more and more noticeable to the wider population.

It really is.

Froodwithatowel · 22/09/2023 15:08

Had that crowd of animals killed KJK and her team, the police no doubt would have hidden behind 'oh but we were waiting for back up'. The facts stand that for ideology, they were prepared and in the process of standing by to watch a murder committed in front of them.

Access to the law is now dependent on whether you have the 'right' kind of belief.

How long is it ago in Australia where you could die of cancer if you had the 'wrong' colour of skin and the hospital staff saw you as beneath them? 80 years is it?

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