Complaints against NZ media not upheld regarding Kelly Jay Keen's rally

[LizaBizza]

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/12/posie-parker-anti-trans-new-zealand-australia/

In summary, regulators have found it accurate for the media to describe KJK as anti-trans and to say that she has the support of Nazis.

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Oh my…. This video again…

I did an analysis of this video on a thread… did you miss that thread?

Shall I post the analysis that I did, including transcripts for the bits this misogynist misrepresented?

If this is your level of critical thinking dadjoke, I now understand your posts much better.

I am not anti-women

Mate, you're kidding yourself.

Gosh… @LizaBizza , you are providing us with such a great opportunity to bring out all our analysis again that shows the paucity and dishonesty behind all the claims associated with KJK’s trip to Australia and NZ.

Thank you. Have you disappeared or have you something meaningful to add to defend your posts?

I am not anti-women, I am against transphobia. Most GC people are men, and the idea that you can use "women" as a synonym for GC people is laughable.

I think "GC" is about your view of gender, so it's not the case that "most GC people are men". You may have a higher percentage of men that are against "trans inclusion" in women’s spaces, but that doesn't make them gender critical.

If males want to push their way into women’s spaces, when they know that they aren't wanted by a substantial percentage of women, and they know that they are going to cause distress to women, or a big chunk of women, can't that be described as "anti woman"? Is that not fair?

It is hilarious isn’t?

I wonder if dadjoke will make a coherent reply to the testosterone during pregnancy issue. Or is he now stuck with also appearing ‘anti-child’.

Because we need to use the same logic and low bar of proof that dadjoke is using after all…

This is a very well-respected report that is referenced by governments, large public health organisations and womens rights organisations internationally.

They make use of International Labour Organisation stats - why have you not referenced that?

https://www.ilo.org/global/lang--en/index.htm

Of course they will use a variety of sources to cross-check their findings and look for consistency and I think the use of LinkedIn is quite innovative actually, as that is an individual directly recording their own status, compared to company or government information which could have flaws in different ways.

Is it perfect? No of course not, no style of measurement and no data can be.

But is a very credible and very well-thought of effort to measure the gender gap along important dimensions.

So.... you cannot address the glaring issues.... you will just double down?

Your choice, every time you post it, we will simply post the issues.

And by the way... any hint as to how this measures the impact of Self ID on women and girls in the countries being measured?

Anything? Anything at all?

Or just your empty assurances that it completely shows what you want it to show?

Is it supposed to fill us with confidence that other, deeply flawed and ideologically captured parties and organisations reference this survey?

Yes... sugggestions LinkedIn is all about self reporting. I can see how you view this as being robust data....

Is that just like the BBC fact checker who was caught lying on their CV....

And you talk about 'bizarre'....

If being pro-women is “anti-trans” then being pro-trans must be “anti-women”. And that’s because there’s a conflict of rights. As a woman, the original non-suffixed type, I’m on my side, and if that makes me “anti-trans” I’m fine with that, not being in the womanly habit of subjugating my needs for the needs of men.

I'm looking at my former colleague's LinkedIn profile right now.

It says he can speak Spanish.

Reader, he cannot speak Spanish.

Using LinkedIn was an 'easy' option and no doubt LinkedIn gets some excellent benefit from supplying this data!

Innovation hey? Supplying aspirational facts for a fucking serious (supposedly) report into the 'gender gap' that is supposed to be accurate.

Again, Please note ... this index measures the 'gender gap', NOT whether the country is actually an aspirational women's rights champion! Meaning, some of the top countries exploit their male population just as much as the female population!

But hey.... it is a great measure of how well those countries are doing for women.... Fuck reality!

Where is the full tweet?

You upload a badly doctored (photoshop) image with no context.

I can tell just by the text size difference that the body text is not original to the message.

If you want to shock me at least give me the time and date version of the tweet?

That's right, I will continue to post it, to show that the top 4 countries that are doing the best for women, are also countries that have policies of self-ID.

Given these countries have done so well, for so long for women (and their citizens generally - look at their track records), why do you think the 4 of them have all suddenly gone mad?

Perhaps you could reflect that, actually, they haven't gone mad, and they are continuing in the trend they have consistently demonstrated - of taking good decisions for their citizens.

Now you can choose to focus on single issues and problems, which of course exist, I am more interested in the large, overall picture of how women's lives are improved and the cultures that support the wellbeing and success of women. These countries have improved the lives of women whilst also improving the lives of trans people. Of course I am not saying anything is causative here, but they see no incompatibility on these issues, and their position at the table has been untroubled by their self-ID policies.

Answer the question Suggestions

What relevance do you believe this index with the data it is pulling has to reflect the lack of impact of self ID to those countries on women and girls?

It is a very straightforward question.

List the measures specifically that you feel prove your claim.

If you don't, because you never have to date, you are just doubling down on a very empty claim to authority (ie. it is such a well respected index... look at who uses it... )

And we will continue to point out what that index actually has measured, that you don't seem to have registered at all....

You claim it is taking good decisions for their citizens.

It is an index of GENDER GAPS. IF A COUNTRY TREATS ITS MALE POPULATION AS BADLY AS IT DOES ITS FEMALE POPULATION IT RATES HIGHLY!

I believe you understand this and I believe it is why you are trying to dishonestly limit discussion to the TOP 4 countries as you have done for a very long time now.

I genuinely cannot see how the country that has an incredibly high domestic violence record against women, can be judged to be the best for women.

It is bizarre that you keep citing this pile of shite. Just to prove that women are happy when men call themselves women, half of whom are being beaten into submission by men, some of whom call themselves women.

I am more interested in the large, overall picture of how women's lives are improved and the cultures that support the wellbeing and success of women.

No, you are interested in using this to silence women and dictate to women that your enforcing of men's rights and men's interests can be justified as 'good for them'. And you much prefer this data with all it's problems to hearing women's voices when what they say does not fit your male centric agenda.

Just to make it really easy to answer and not to avoid it, here is the question:

What relevant data is this index pulling do you believe reflects the lack of impact of self ID on that nation's women and girls?

I edited the question just to make it very clear what I was asking.

And again, suggestions you can ignore the question. And it will be posted every single time you post that report. Readers will note if you will answer or not, so it really is up to you.

I've got to rush now and I can't double check this, but I believe the top 4 countries have been in the top 4 for the last few years despite their introduction of self-ID policies. This would suggest that their self-ID policies have had no negative impact on the big picture, overall wellbeing and success of women.

Further to why focus on the top 4...well why not focus on the very best?

And do you think the UK is more demographically similar to those top 4 countries, or Rwanda, which you want to focus on?

The dismissiveness of women's safety is quite astounding to see.

Dismissed by seeing 'the success' of women.... I mean, considering that many countries have such a disparate class system that those women who are 'successful' will certainly make a country look good and rate highly, meanwhile the women who have no chance of 'success' will be just has they were. And dismissed by someone with such a narrow minded agenda.

No. That is not an answer. That is a dismissal and a distraction.

The question remains unanswered.

What relevance do you believe this index with the data it is pulling has to reflect the lack of impact of self ID to those countries on women and girls?

No suggestions, this is not addressing the issues with using the data for the purposes you continue to use it for.

You should be so well fucking versed with this information because you keep posting it that this should be answerable from the top of your head.

Stop using distraction and dismissal.