Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

[KnittingDiva]

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

the problem we have, is we all have different values and views. You hate racist/fascists and believe they need to be ostracised. They hate migrants and believe they need to be ostracised. But this is one and the same. Ultimately they way to step out of this, is to be willing and able to talk to other human beings, to listen, to think, to respond.

to rise above hatred and exclusion and bullying, into a place of rationality, conversation and respect. We all need to do it.

Nah, I don't have to play in the playground with anyone that would deny me the right to an abortion, the right to marry who I choose or would turn people seeking protection away at the our border.

Well if others in your tribe share this view it explains a lot. Thank you.

Any decent political or social movement takes action when they realise that their group is being infiltrated by fascists. I wondered why the anti-trans movement ignored it but this makes sense.

If you think fascism is legitimate why would you try to stop them from joining your number? You'll live to regret though because fascists famously don't care about women or feminism.

ah but you do. We share this society. You have to live alongside these people.

Yep but I don't have to welcome them when they come to my door. Instead I will turn them away, they are not invited and they are not welcome.

How on earth can I stop someone 'from joining my number'? wht tribe? IT is such a bizarre way to see things. It's this new group think, literally tribalism. I am not part of a tribe, I am not able to stop people from agreeing me on theoritcal principles. I am not a gatekeeper for an idea.

I have not said I think facsim is legitimate, what I have said is I believe most people (other than complete psychopaths) could be reasoned out of such a mentality.

You have that right within your own home, and good for you. If you wish to put on an event that only allows certain people to speak, then go ahead, create it.

This is not your event, this is an event based on the principles of free-speech and (true) inclusivity. So if you don't like that, make your own.

Free speech is the complete opposite of fascism. There is no heirarchy, no dictatorship, no control.

Defining who and who is not eligible or worthy of speaking, is closer to facism than free speech. You believe some people are of less value, and therefore should not speak.

in the way you are dealing with this situation, you are more 'fascist' than I.

Tidy up your own home before judging others. Look at yourself before proclaiming someone else is in the wrong.

Where are your ideas incorrect?

I dunno @BlessedKali, maybe it's as simple as saying 'don't come to our rally. You are not welcome here, you do not represent us nor can you stand with us' instead of saying 'if you're far right that's ok'

Speak away. Was anyone stopped from speaking today?

that sounds a bit fascist to me!

Thankfully, no. No one was fascistically told to stop speaking. We can all celebrate the freedom of expression and total opposite of facism that Let Women Speak events represent!

He only talked for a minute at the most, ffs

So how come you think you get to say who you do and don't stand with, but women aren't afforded the same respect?

Most if us here dont wven know who you're talking about, let alone have 'asked them to stand beside them'.

But you're here to tell us what we believe and try to tar us all with the same brush. It's so dishonest. Maybe if you stopped shouting at women and listened for a change you'd actually learn something and stop making such silly errors?

The whole point of the protest was stated as trying to drown out women's voices.

Mr Menno was interviewed!
https://x.com/MForstater/status/1703072096266412428?s=20

Why were there so many Soviet flags?

And I see Fred the Flasher was there...

£10.18 an hour.

Jesus. This is the problem with (truly) uneducated, self-righteous adult babies who are angry at mum & dad (the state), trying to rebel, and just being completely foolish throughout. History lessons are well needed.

@ArabeIIaScott I don't think that at all.

Stand with whoever you want. But I will ask you why. And you will refuse to answer. As is your right. And I can judge your choice to either standing with them knowingly or not bothering to find out who you stand with.

Most of you don't know who we are talking about because for the most part ye have no idea what happens in our country. But fire away, come over with your rallies but don't be surprised when people turn up to drown you out.

Yes, and Lenin’s head on a pink/Blue striped placard.
Just why?

The marxists/leninists were rather fascistic - the dictatorship of the proletariat. And really rather good at silencing, and just plain exterminating, those who disagreed with them.

Tell me why that is an excellent ideology to support trans-ideology?

It's very upsetting to hear that the TRA's shouted, screamed and played 'Murder on the Dancefloor' as women bravely spoke about sexual abuse they had suffered.

Vile people. Don't think much of your mates @CasuirDubh @Flounder2022

'The whole point of the protest was stated as trying to drown out women's voices.'

You have the right to speak. Others exercised their right to speak - but louder