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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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FemaleAndLearning · 19/09/2023 21:41

DublinLWS · 18/09/2023 02:29

I went to Dublin, I'm Irish and was really scared about attending

My son travelled with me but he would get hassle in work if he was seen at the event, so we were loitering in the park trying to decide if it was safe for me to alone, when we heard a group of English terfs, spoke for all of 5 seconds and they said come on then lets go

So I ditched the Son and off I went, what a day :)

It was amazing to be surrounded by so many supportive, intelligent women,

I was starstruck seeing all the heros from my phone in the flesh, I saw Glinner and Helen Joyce hugging each other to say hello, Paddy O Gorman in his hat, Mr Menno SMILED at me! Aja was right beside me praising the Gardai, Laoise and then Kellie Jay arrived, I was a proper country bumpkin so thought I better put my phone away and just enjoy being there :)

The speakers were brilliant, sadly none a surprise to me about how woman are treated in Ireland, The woman talking about the constitution was very interesting, Laoise with These Words Belong to Us and I thought the woman who used to work with pride was very brave and the woman at the end talking about being questioned by the Gardai, with a Garda behind her looking very uncomfortable was very satisfying 😎

It felt very safe at the event but I left straight away as I was still worried about getting my train, I met people I knew at the station and on the train but none of us said why we were in Dublin (thats unusual, we normally share every random detail!)

I would be known for supporting and campaigning for gay marriage, abortion, travellers rights and no I dont think Ireland is full, is it likely people who know me would assume I also support trans people over Womens rights? God only knows but its not a question that is easy to ask in Ireland right now

The media coverage was woeful, at best they said both sides, worst was anti trans v trans joy, again not suprising

I think the Gardai will have seen where the trouble is though and its not from women wanting to speak, as I was leaving I heard a conversation with a woman and a Garda

" well now thank you very much Garda, you kept us safe, I think you had the easy job today!" "your very welcome, grand day altogether except for the soft rain, you take care now" 😀

Great day and hopefully it happens again soon

and if my English terfy friends are on here, thank you for making me brave enough to actually go in x

I'm one of the English terfs who met you and your son in the park. Pleasure to meet you XX

3timeslucky · 20/09/2023 15:06

I was there on Saturday. It was really well organised and I was lucky to be there with a crowd of lovely women. The speeches were varied and delivered by women of different ages with different stories to tell (and yes Glinner got offered the mic for a couple of mins). Oh, and the pints were epic!

It is kind of weird to find a thread about a Dublin event side-tracked by attempts to get posters to defend comments made by randomers in all corners of the world. Why would a poster be required to defend a randomer on the internet? Why would a poster (or attendee) at LWS be required to defend the presence of people who may or may not have been there, who may or may not hold objectionable views on topics that aren't even up for discussion on this particular thread? The good news is opinions aren't catching, and particularly from people who never spoke at the event. So we can all breathe a sigh of relief on that one.

The warning signs were there of course once a poster added a picture that wasn't even from the event, wasn't from an event run by LWS and wasn't even in Dublin afaik but quite happily asserted it was all of these things. That tells you everything you need to know about their integrity, commitment to accuracy and connection to reality.

Many women turned up at LWS Dublin with fear and they tapped into their courage because they have reached the point of realising that we have to stand up on this issue. Any I spoke to for whom this was their first time "out" were delighted and feeling empowered to do more, say more and turn up again. Women who didn't and couldn't turn up saw how the event was run and how positive an experience it was and I think some at least will tap into that knowledge and show up next time.

Courage calls to courage.

IwantToRetire · 20/09/2023 16:47

3timeslucky · 20/09/2023 15:06

I was there on Saturday. It was really well organised and I was lucky to be there with a crowd of lovely women. The speeches were varied and delivered by women of different ages with different stories to tell (and yes Glinner got offered the mic for a couple of mins). Oh, and the pints were epic!

It is kind of weird to find a thread about a Dublin event side-tracked by attempts to get posters to defend comments made by randomers in all corners of the world. Why would a poster be required to defend a randomer on the internet? Why would a poster (or attendee) at LWS be required to defend the presence of people who may or may not have been there, who may or may not hold objectionable views on topics that aren't even up for discussion on this particular thread? The good news is opinions aren't catching, and particularly from people who never spoke at the event. So we can all breathe a sigh of relief on that one.

The warning signs were there of course once a poster added a picture that wasn't even from the event, wasn't from an event run by LWS and wasn't even in Dublin afaik but quite happily asserted it was all of these things. That tells you everything you need to know about their integrity, commitment to accuracy and connection to reality.

Many women turned up at LWS Dublin with fear and they tapped into their courage because they have reached the point of realising that we have to stand up on this issue. Any I spoke to for whom this was their first time "out" were delighted and feeling empowered to do more, say more and turn up again. Women who didn't and couldn't turn up saw how the event was run and how positive an experience it was and I think some at least will tap into that knowledge and show up next time.

Courage calls to courage.

Well said. It is such a shame that so many fall for this every time. Not only is it remarkably tedious, but as you said such an insult to those it is actually about.

Have half a mind to copy all the posts that are about the event, not about some online heckler trying to disrupt, and start a thread that just shows them.

Really glad the turnout was good and the mood supportive.

As I said after watching it, it came over as the event and those who spoke as being quite feisty!

IwantToRetire · 20/09/2023 16:49

And of course allowed the disrupters to litter this thread with words like facists etc., so that search engines will now continue to associate LWS / KJK with those words.

ApocalipstickNow · 20/09/2023 17:59

Why would a poster be required to defend a randomer on the internet? Etc

Because masturbation is fun?

(also sorry I basically yadda yadda’d your quote there 3times)

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