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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 15:13

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Not more tolerant at all. It is not tolerant to want to close down debate, get your lectureres disciplined or sacked, and have meetings cancelled.

It is true, though, that post-modernistic theories have been dominating on university campuses for a decade or so now, and this is what yourg people have been exposed to. Quite frankly I'm personally sick of the lionising of youth.Youth has an arrogance that asumes nobody else has ver questioned stuff - and that older people are necessarily backward. Simply not true. There is a lot of naive idealism when young. It goes with the territory.

Young women have been brought up with the gains made by older generations of women - and they take it all for granted - they don't realise how fragile it all is. Yet still, they are shouting out about 'male violence' and 'the patriarchy'

I know of many women in their thirties who are involved in the push-back - and there is a new generation even younger than yours coming up behind who is having none of it. Your pet ideology will become an oppressive nonsense one day, too.

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 15:13

A lot of literal fascists in the crowd. Aren't you mortified to be standing with these people?

RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 15:16

LizaBizza · 16/09/2023 14:20

"And you will get old too"

Hopefully my old self will have better things to do than worry about what people have between their legs or their sexuality.

You really think when you get to be 50 that sex will no longer exist; women will no longer become pregnant or become mothers, and that sexual violence, assault and male paraphilias will be a thing of the past?

RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 15:16

If so you are living in fantasy land.

Abhannmor · 16/09/2023 15:29

Yeah thats right , yours will be the generation that will abolish fuddy duddy distinctions like sex. Although class might have to wait until the Revolution .

Howling at the moon because you resent the constraints of human biology. Much good it will do you.

Scampuss · 16/09/2023 15:36

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Hounding someone out of their job is a very strange way of expressing tolerance.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 15:37

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I'm curious- why are you here trying to persuade us of our irrelevance?

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 15:40

LizaBizza · 16/09/2023 13:54

A lot of old people from what I saw.

They had a teen girl speak but she looked very out of place given everyone else seems to be above 50.

Almost as if the teen girl was a "token" young person to try and make it look the gender critical movement is varied in age, when clearly the very vast majority are middle aged and over.

Oh my god, 'old' you say? How absolutely the worst. 😂

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 15:42
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I love that the worst ad hom these people can come up with is that we are old.

Villagetoraiseachild · 16/09/2023 15:49

Great responses!
Thank you everyone
Agus go raibh maith agat na Gardai....

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 15:51

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Reader’s Notes:

The claim that the age group between 18-28 is the most tolerant is now proven to be a false claim across several polls as well as many anecdotal events. Polls have found that friends are not being honest about their opinions with their friends or their peers out of fear. Fear that they will be rejected as is also evidenced by the same polls. A very high percentage of that age group admit to stopping friendships, and not talking again to colleagues once they found a political point they disagreed on.

This is not a characteristic found in the age groups 39 years old and above.

Anecdotal evidence includes then now many protesters seeking to cancel or to drown out anything from meetings to film screenings to debates and rallies where women have opinions those protesters disagree with. This particularly happens at universities where those 18-28 year olds attend their studies.

I am very happy to provide the links to studies. Just ask, right now though I am on my phone so it will have to be later.

This is just another area where bizza is spreading false information.

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:02

Actually age isn't the only complaint here. I raised the fact that you are happy to share a platform with fascists but no one responded. Funny that.

Farmageddon · 16/09/2023 16:03

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:02

Actually age isn't the only complaint here. I raised the fact that you are happy to share a platform with fascists but no one responded. Funny that.

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What exactly are we expected to say to that nonsense? Are you just bored or something?

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:06

I don't know, maybe explain why you are fraternizing with fascists?

borntobequiet · 16/09/2023 16:07

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:02

Actually age isn't the only complaint here. I raised the fact that you are happy to share a platform with fascists but no one responded. Funny that.

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You think it’s a fact. No one else does. Why engage in your fantasy?

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 16:09

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:06

I don't know, maybe explain why you are fraternizing with fascists?

I will if you tell me why yer da sells Avon.

StephanieSuperpowers · 16/09/2023 16:09

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:06

I don't know, maybe explain why you are fraternizing with fascists?

Rather than paedophiles and all the other assorted perverts flocking to genderism while the bekinders pat each other on the back about how kind they are?

I'm on whichever side isn't into sterilisation of gay and autistic youth, or destroying women's capacity to organise as a coherent group.

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:10

Are you guys involved with the anti immigrant stuff and the eejits who harass library staff or is that just your fascist friends who joined you on the march today?

StephanieSuperpowers · 16/09/2023 16:12

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:10

Are you guys involved with the anti immigrant stuff and the eejits who harass library staff or is that just your fascist friends who joined you on the march today?

Nope. Are you involved in letting men beat women to a pulp in women's hostels or giving tragic sex offenders suspended sentences because they're so upset?

Woman2023 · 16/09/2023 16:13

Times are changing, people are more tolerant.

Hounding someone out of their job is a very strange way of expressing tolerance

This, many times over. As an oldie I am quite capable of tolerating other's lifestyles, but I draw the line at expecting me to pretend a self-chosen gender identity is of any significance.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 16:14

Mate, this is a feminist board, please don't 'guys' us.

I'm sitting on my arse right now, I'm not on a march. I gather you are here to complain that women were speaking, yes? Unsupervised? Without your express permission?

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 16:15

I take it you are a pal of Isla Bryson, Karen White, Barbie Kardashian and Andrew Miller?

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:16

So if you agree that these people are bad, why stand with them at your matches?

I don't do the above because I'm not involved in this debate in any way because I can see pros and cons on both sides but I was disgusted to see the company you keep today.

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 16:17

Who exactly is hanging out with fascists? Who are the fascists people are hanging out with? How have they been hanging out? You mean someone attended an open mic public rally where anyone can just walk up and listen.

And post proof that they are fascists?

Frankly, it is a tired old accusation and no one who is a critical thinker believes the accusations.

RealityFan · 16/09/2023 16:17

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 15:51

Reader’s Notes:

The claim that the age group between 18-28 is the most tolerant is now proven to be a false claim across several polls as well as many anecdotal events. Polls have found that friends are not being honest about their opinions with their friends or their peers out of fear. Fear that they will be rejected as is also evidenced by the same polls. A very high percentage of that age group admit to stopping friendships, and not talking again to colleagues once they found a political point they disagreed on.

This is not a characteristic found in the age groups 39 years old and above.

Anecdotal evidence includes then now many protesters seeking to cancel or to drown out anything from meetings to film screenings to debates and rallies where women have opinions those protesters disagree with. This particularly happens at universities where those 18-28 year olds attend their studies.

I am very happy to provide the links to studies. Just ask, right now though I am on my phone so it will have to be later.

This is just another area where bizza is spreading false information.

The TRAs can't even stick to basic science, so expecting them to be accurate about anything else is a forelorn hope. Maybe one day they'll emerge from their "toddlers in a meltdown" stage of non development. But on the basis of their ability to piss themselves in public and not even acknowledge how embarrassing they are, I'm not holding my breath.

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