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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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DerekFaker · 16/09/2023 19:03

Freda Wallace lives in London. I wonder if he came over on a bus? I wonder if there were more English TRAs there? I bet there were. I bet Sarah Jane Baker would have been there if he wasn't currently locked up.

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 19:03

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 19:00

I like big busses, and I cannot lie.

I like them red and huge, double decker huge!!! I also hold huge respect for the long bendy ones.

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 19:05

they-them got a ticket to ride, they/them got a ticcket to ri-iy-iyde, they/them got a ticket to ride, but they/them don't care.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 19:06

Let's avoid the subject of bendy buses lest it over-excite anyone.

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 19:06

I am looking forward to finding out the law that could have been used to exclude specific men listening to the Let Women Speak speeches when they didn’t cause any disruption or threaten any harm.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 19:11

I'm still working out why, if you had fash in your town, and wanted to show how much you hated them, your first thought would be 'I know, I'll go and noise up Mumsnet'.

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 19:25

Yes arabella it seems to be bizarre behaviour that seriously detracts from the credibility of the poster.

It is clear that there is a deep prejudice held by the posters who have attempted this. That prejudice is that Mumsnet is a place to hate on women who disagree with you and make the absurd outrageous accusations.

Must be making posters feel good. But it also must be embarrassing to be shown that it is you, the poster making accusations, that lacks the ability to make reasoned, evidenced and logically sound arguments and that it is you, the poster making accusations that is the narrow minded and incoherent one.

GrandmaMazur · 16/09/2023 19:26

A bit of an aside but did Glinner speak? I didn’t see him when I was watching the live feed.

Rotterdam · 16/09/2023 19:41

@GrandmaMazur

He did but for a minute.

GrandmaMazur · 16/09/2023 19:45

Rotterdam · 16/09/2023 19:41

@GrandmaMazur

He did but for a minute.

Shame I missed it!

Looks like it was a good day.

Coyoacan · 16/09/2023 20:09

@Flounder2022

I will never agree that giving a platform to racism. homophobia or any type of hate speech is ok.

You see there are very sound arguments to be made against racism and homophobia so we don't actually have to shut them up. However your belief in a medical intervention with a 60% failure rate that is practiced on healthy bodies to cure mental problems, is quite a hard one to defend.

RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 20:20

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:16

So if you agree that these people are bad, why stand with them at your matches?

I don't do the above because I'm not involved in this debate in any way because I can see pros and cons on both sides but I was disgusted to see the company you keep today.

It is a free country at which people are permitted to turn out in public places; and as long as they are not breaking the law - that is within their right. Nobody gets to say who can and cannot turn up.

To be quite frank I've been quite disgusted, over the years, at the behaviour of those that turn out in direct support of your supposed cause. People wearing balaclavas; kicking doors and windows; storming buildings; shouting abuse; banners suggesting people hang themselves; women assaulted..........Do you stand with this?

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 20:24

RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 20:20

It is a free country at which people are permitted to turn out in public places; and as long as they are not breaking the law - that is within their right. Nobody gets to say who can and cannot turn up.

To be quite frank I've been quite disgusted, over the years, at the behaviour of those that turn out in direct support of your supposed cause. People wearing balaclavas; kicking doors and windows; storming buildings; shouting abuse; banners suggesting people hang themselves; women assaulted..........Do you stand with this?

What's my supposed cause?

RocketPanda · 16/09/2023 20:26

So if by fascists attending a rally makes those at the rally fascists what does MAPS ( 🙄) attending a parade make those at the parade?

Answers on a postcard please

RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 20:29

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 20:24

What's my supposed cause?

You tell me. You seem very vocal and have come to this board specifically to berate people here.

You've no idea aboiut the many people who post here. The lives they have led; the issues they have been concerned with; the movements they have been involved with; the politics they hold.

I can almost guarantee, though, many have been doing these things far longer than you have.

Farmageddon · 16/09/2023 20:31

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 20:24

What's my supposed cause?

If you support the counter protesters then you are supporting those who are anti - women.

Those who are against women having our own single sex spaces, our own language, our own legal definition free from men.

Those who seem to think a gathering called 'Let Women Speak' is so terrifying that it must be stopped at all costs.

RebelliousCow · 16/09/2023 20:32

It just so happens, that many different groups of people; many different individuals all seem to agree that gender identity ideology is regresssive and destructive. That is how democracy works. People of varied backgrounds get to speak out, or listen to, debate around contempoarray and contentious issues.

borntobequiet · 16/09/2023 20:34

It’s very strange to tell people not to stand next to other people in case they might be bad people.

Really quite paranoid.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/09/2023 20:37

I see Victorian values have returned on this thread with women scolding, women shaming and repeated demands for women not to associate with (be in the same vicinity in public) with unsuitable men. And that's making no mention of the misogynists screaming abuse at women under their Putin flags.
Their determination to control and silence women seems to know no bounds.

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 20:45

I do hope though that eventually a poster will post the Irish law that women could use to have any man who they disagree with from standing in an open public place listening to them speaking when they have done nothing disruptive or potentially harmful.

Apparently, the organisers of the event mustn’t have known it and neither did the police.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 20:56

Trans rights activists' latest chosen figurehead is Sarah Jane Baker. A torturer and attempted murderer who kidnapped, imprisoned, and inflicted hideous, lifelong scars, both mental and physical, on his victim, who was 19 at the time of the attack.

elgreco · 16/09/2023 21:00

I was there.

  1. It wasn't a March
  2. Glinner was the only Penis haver to speak ( for less than a minute)
  3. Some bad men stood and listened.
  4. More bad men and women screamed threats from a distance.
StephanieSuperpowers · 16/09/2023 21:00

Yes, but a woman was within a metre of a man who isn't known to her and apparently hasn't been convicted of an indictable crime so you know...

StephanieSuperpowers · 16/09/2023 21:06

It's interesting though that they can't argue against what the women are saying so they resort to this guilt by association stuff because they need the approval of the tribe of melts arrayed against the women. For reasons they won't want to investigate too thoroughly.

Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 21:11

And women spoke!!! Knowing that there maybe men in the audience who, if they knew their opinions on some disconnected issues, those women may or may not disagree with.

But apparently, women should not attend any event if there is a chance that they might attend with someone with reportedly abhorrent opinions. Stay at home wims!!

Oh… and never organise any event that you cannot control the audience for wims, despite not being able to exclude any male people without another group protesting and likely to be intimidating you!

You naughty naughty wims! How dare you support free speech that is not the approved version according to the righteous!

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