Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

[KnittingDiva]

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

So for various different reasons I didn't listen to the live stream so I thought I would come on this thread and hear what women who were there thought, and what women who listened to the live stream thought.

But instead, some people who clearly dont even understand what a Let Women Speak event is about ie NOT a march, have contributed some vague generalities about facists or something.

On one level as LWS goes to a number of countries it could be informative to have those from the area say, I saw X or Y flag and for those who dont know group X stands for (something or other) and group for someother something.

We know there are self rigtheous lefties who love to come and lecture us but do wonder why anyone bothers to reply. After all if they were genuinely interested in having discusion about organising as a left identifying feminist they would have started their own thread.

But they never do.

So I can only conclude that the event was a great sucess, and in the usual sadly envious reaction to a woman who doesn't even claim to be a feminist, they are littering this thread with words like facist in the hope that dim wits on the internet will make some vague association of LWS / KJK as being facist.

In my opinion it would be better not to encourage even more of these totally daft posts by bothering to respond. They will always do it. We dont have to play their game.

Would genuinely like to hear from anyone who was there or listened to the live stream what they took away from the event.

Was there a good turn out?

What were the issues that the women who did speak raised?

Did the police do a good job in allowing women the right to speak?

And I did see the bit about Glinner and women who wanted to speak not getting a turn, was it not possible to continue, ie did it have to stop at a set time?

Is there any possibility that out of this event women in and around Dublin would now think about holding their own event.

And anything else of course, because like LWS itself which is listened to by a global audience, FWR is read by women around the world, and it would be good to give some real context, not the fabricated, irrelevant whatabouteries, of the situation for women in Ireland who support women's sex based rights.

I was there. There was a good turn out much more than the 200 predicted.

The gardaí had a large presence. There was a dead zone built between the LWS and the protestors. It was possible to hear most of the women most of the time.

The speakers were varied. A lesbian who had been kicked out of the organisation of the Pride march who was furious. A working class dub who was furious about the proposed change to the constitution. She was probably a bit more right wing that most of the audience. A girl who was furious that her teachers tried to re-educate her. A very angry older woman who had been arrested for wrong speak. Another socialist woman who had been bullied. I couldn't hear her too well. There were others.

Two of the women did speak for too long in my opinion. It also started a bit late, I think. Glinner spoke very briefly.

I was there. Met some very interesting women from all over Ireland and beyond, around me were women of all ages and men too, I was beside a man in a wheelchair who was wearing an LGB Alliance sweatshirt. Plenty of women of colour too, so much for the anti immigrant accusations of a previous poster. We ticked all the diversity and inclusion boxes, I reckon! The very first speaker was a young woman of colour.

I didn't agree with all that was said, one speaker mentioned God quite a bit which is not my thing, but I listened and some of her other points were very interesting. A young lesbian spoke about her experiences at a prominent LGBTetc "support" group, where she was called transphobic for saying she wouldn't date a transwoman - she was on the verge of tears as she spoke and I was happy to see how well supported she was by the crowd. Lots of hugs when she came back in.

Hilarious when Glinner stood at the mic and someone shouted "careful now"!!! He was invited up for the very last moment. There were so many hands up that there was no way everyone could speak within the two hours, KJK asked speakers to keep it to 3 mins, then 1, to try and let as many as possible speak, and apologised that not everyone got the chance. The police were grand, looked bemused as they searched our bags at the barriers, but very affable and happy to be thanked, as they were by many as we left.

A great day, a great atmosphere of warmth and support (apart from the noisy clamour of the rainbow crowd), but they were kept far enough away that they didn't drown us out.

Well done, those who attended, thanks for the reports!

And good to hear the police were helpful and well organised with barriers, etc.

It is enraging hearing those aggressive, stupid men and their handmaidens chanting and shouting when women are speaking, with great courage, about their experiences of being assaulted, abused, suffering at the hands of men.
Some of those women have had the most terrible experiences. The protesters would do well to actually listen, but of course they won't.

@LizaBizza go to any university campus today and you will find the majority of students are very much in favour of gay rights but mainly think trans ideology is a load of nonsense. I have 3 children, one recently graduated, 2 still in uni, doing/did 3 different STEM courses in two different unis. They and their friends think it's a load of nonsense.

Trans ideology is mainly pushed by students in the humanities. They tend to have more time on their hands than students studying STEM subjects so their voices are the ones you hear.

I work in a uni in a STEM field. I have yet to encounter a trans student on any of my courses or had any suggestion that pronouns are something we should do. Colleagues in the humanities in the same uni are told they have to include pronouns when introducing themselves and have multiple trans students in their classes.

All that's happening is that the loud voices are being heard.

No fascists or Nazis? I mean other than the TRAs.

Well done to all the speakers, every woman & man who turned up today. 👏👏👏

Thanks for all report backs. Sounds great.

Due to me stupidly assuming it would be on sunday (as they mostly are) I missed the live stream. But as I know have a 2 hour space in tomorrows list of things to do will look forward to listening then.

Although it can see that speakers at LWS are saying the same things, there is nearly always some vartiation on how women have been impacted that is really important to hear about and know. And sometime women speak from an experience that no one has mentioned before, and it is then that realise just how subversive and far reaching the trans agenda has been.

And irrespective of who turns up to speak or listen, for this opportunity alone KJK deserves not just thanks but recognition.

You can still see the livestream on Posie's Youtube channel @IwantToRetire
All her LWS livestreams are there.

In the meantime, here's Glinner's bit

Full event
https://www.youtube.com/live/wV8uTh1Pq7s?si=EwWk4X7hqGf9LDLn

I campaigned long and hard for women's reproductive rights and for repeal of the 8th. I fully support SSM.

I also fully support LWS. Do I agree with everything every one of those women believe? Of course not. I don't agree with everything my nearest and dearest believe so why would I expect to do so for any other group of people.

I believe sex is real. I believe gender ideology is a retrograde belief system that undoes decades of advances in women's rights. The only winners in gender ideology are men.

Women deserve to have same sex spaces and I will continue to fight for our rights to safety, dignity and fairness.

For all those upset that Graham Linehan spoke for one minute, the reason that not all women could speak is that they only had a certain amount of time to do so.

Wouldn't it be grand if any group of women could meet up, in public or private, without having to get the police to protect them and thus having to apply for licences to do so?

We are in a state now where women cannot meet without men.

FIrstly to protest about them meeting, and then to protect them meeting.

It is fucking insane.

Linehan - the most articulate and deeply wronged defender of women and women’s rights we’ve seen over the last few years - spoke brilliantly and deserved every second of the time he was given.

anti-feminist facists
privileged, stupid arseholes

Bang on. No wonder TRAs don’t like it when he speaks.

Broadly agree. However, I also think that his fame is a complicating issue. A major Irish star was present and prepared to speak. I imagine many people would have been terribly disappointed if he hadn't spoken.

I was there, KJK started at 14.03 so just on time.

It’s very difficult at a free speech event to stop speakers who are too long. These women are often not used to public speaking so perhaps they could be more succinct but they speak from the heart.
GL spoke for about 1 minute. The crowd wanted him to speak.
the event was finished promptly at 2pm & the crowd quickly dispersed.

The TRAs were allowed hang around & them March to college green.

The Gardai did an excellent job.

& then march…

Broadly agree. However, I also think that his fame is a complicating issue. A major Irish star was present and prepared to speak. I imagine many people would have been terribly disappointed if he hadn't spoken.

This.

Report from the Irish section of the Sunday Times here, balanced enough reporting, although they mistakenly said that Helen Joyce was there, when she was at the Free Speech event in the RDS.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d9d22c5c-54d1-11ee-bc18-cbdd58145dc6?shareToken=6fadbab8325050ef374423652f535b20

I wasn't there but I think the positives to take away from the day was the increase in number of attendees - which means more people are hearing about it - and the fact that the Gardaí are willing to do their job properly and allow it to happen peacefully. Wasn't there an issue a few months ago where they said they weren't willing to police the event or something? So this is good news for future meetings.

Also, the comment section is closed for some reason - annoying.

Helen Joyce was there, she was the first speaker as she had to zoom off to RDS. She spoke for about 2 minutes.