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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Roisin Murphy

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WarriorN · 24/08/2023 06:38

Is it true? Did did say this?

"Puberty blockers ARE FUCKED! Big pharma laughing all the way to the bank!"

Roisin Murphy
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WarriorN · 24/08/2023 16:19

Well i find it quite amusing that a song about her being pregnant and completely fixated on food (Orally Fixated) as she had to give up smoking, was interpreted as "a double entendre" by many male music commentators.

"Well, I was orally fixated during my pregnancy. I had to give up smoking and I was just fixated on what I could put into my mouth instead. So the oral fixation was certainly in my mind, though not for sexual reasons. So that's it really. And of course it's a pop song so you more or less always find a slightly sexual slant on the ideas that are in your brain, because you're writing a pop song. They're kind of sexy. I didn't have the sexual double entendre in my mind. I didn't expect it to be perceived quite as sexually as it has been. I'm actually a bit shy about all that. It surprises me that I wrote a song like that, you know?"

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WarriorN · 24/08/2023 16:20

(Describes my second pregnancy to a T.)

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WhereAreWeNow · 24/08/2023 17:52

Go Roisin! She's so cool. I suspect Alison Goldfrapp might be one of us too.

WarriorN · 27/08/2023 06:11

Nothing else happened here did it?

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TwoDigestives · 27/08/2023 09:13

WarriorN · 27/08/2023 06:11

Nothing else happened here did it?

An album launch event was cancelled at Homoelectric last night.

Bearpawk · 27/08/2023 09:18

Farmageddon · 24/08/2023 14:23

I really hope it is actually her official account - I'm not on twitter, but given that the screenshot in the OP has her name spelled without fadas, and no picture of her I'm not sure..hope I'm wrong though.

It is her personal Fb account avatar. I can see it. Mutual friends.

Abhannmor · 27/08/2023 09:25

I couldn't do fadas online for ages. Does she go by Róisín?

I've noticed a lot of TRAs have Celtic Goddessy user names for some reason. When they use fadas they're oftén ín thé wróng plácés.

MavisMcMinty · 27/08/2023 09:37

“I hear you’re a térf now, Fada.”

Farmageddon · 27/08/2023 09:39

MavisMcMinty · 27/08/2023 09:37

“I hear you’re a térf now, Fada.”

😂

Farmageddon · 27/08/2023 09:39

Bearpawk · 27/08/2023 09:18

It is her personal Fb account avatar. I can see it. Mutual friends.

Ah ok, that's good to hear. I hope she doesn't get too much shit for it.

AutumnCrow · 27/08/2023 09:40

MavisMcMinty · 27/08/2023 09:37

“I hear you’re a térf now, Fada.”

Génius Grin

Farmageddon · 27/08/2023 09:40

Abhannmor · 27/08/2023 09:25

I couldn't do fadas online for ages. Does she go by Róisín?

I've noticed a lot of TRAs have Celtic Goddessy user names for some reason. When they use fadas they're oftén ín thé wróng plácés.

Yes, and they're usually not even Irish, but swan over from America or somewhere telling us all what to think.

RealityFan · 27/08/2023 10:20

Its all very well for Alice Cooper and Carlos Santana to talk up. But they're men, at the end of their careers, gold and platinum discs on the wall, cash and social capital banked.

They're solid, going nowhere.

But for Roisin to speak up, man, this is brave, really brave. Its a man's world, women do not get to have opinions, many will say she's an uppity woman who should keep her trap shut...and that's just the # BeKind progessive lot!

She is still to make her future, develop her voice. She still has all to lose, hence the extreme bravery here.

Of course, if in a decade we've recalibrated as a society, sanity returned, we can look back on occasions like Roisin's statement, and pinpoint she was essential to the outcome.

Just love her.

WarriorN · 27/08/2023 10:23

An album launch event was cancelled at Homoelectric last night.

Oh that sounds ominous

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WarriorN · 27/08/2023 10:24

She is still to make her future

I disagree. She's there already and has a massive following. She's a true artist in that she does it all for the music and visuals.

She'll keep going and seems to have a presence in Ibiza

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RealityFan · 27/08/2023 10:29

WarriorN · 27/08/2023 10:24

She is still to make her future

I disagree. She's there already and has a massive following. She's a true artist in that she does it all for the music and visuals.

She'll keep going and seems to have a presence in Ibiza

Yes, but Alice and Carlos are at the end of their careers, they have no future sales or social status to threaten.

JKR is still writing, Strike etc, but again she has her legacy.

Roisin is much more at risk being mid career. It could still go very badly for her.

Hope you're right and it's not as tenuous as I make out.

CorruptedCauldron · 27/08/2023 10:45

At least there’s been no hostage apology. She’s getting a lot of vitriolic comments on Twitter from former fans. It’s so bonkers that she hasn’t even said anything anti-trans! She’s just said puberty blockers are bad, and kids should be protected. I don’t see any hate for trans people or anything remotely transphobic in that statement.

RealityFan · 27/08/2023 11:09

After spending my formative years rolling my eyes at all things feminist, I would never have put even 50p on me doing a 180 here. Ironically, it wasn't women who convinced me, but other men. Those stepping all over boundaries, those sticking up for that, those ignoring that, those declaring the death of free speech and cancelling were penalties worth paying for that, those telling me those paying those penalities for that was an illusion and evidence of me being radicalised by Matt Walsh etc.

So, decades ago I rolled my eyes at the Clare Short campaign against Page Three. Decades later ie today, I'm full square behind the biggest struggle women have faced in my lifetime.

Why to me, even though I'm pretty vague on Roisin's music, I consider her super brave. She could go on to lose everything. Alice Cooper and Carlos Santana have nothing to lose.

ReeseWitherfork · 27/08/2023 11:15

But for Roisin to speak up, man, this is brave, really brave.

Did she “speak up” though? I’m sure I saw that someone had said that was her personal Facebook. I don’t really know what that means. But I’m curious whether she thought that was just a post her nearest and dearest could see. And one of them has done a Colleen Rooney. (Or was it the other one? That leaked personal stuff to the press.)

Has she said anything more publicly / since?

RealityFan · 27/08/2023 11:24

ReeseWitherfork · 27/08/2023 11:15

But for Roisin to speak up, man, this is brave, really brave.

Did she “speak up” though? I’m sure I saw that someone had said that was her personal Facebook. I don’t really know what that means. But I’m curious whether she thought that was just a post her nearest and dearest could see. And one of them has done a Colleen Rooney. (Or was it the other one? That leaked personal stuff to the press.)

Has she said anything more publicly / since?

She may be testing the water. She may have posted it when drunk. She may currently be getting heat. She may be getting private messages of support. She may regret it.

How many of us would be prepared to go the full JKR or Glinner route, seeing what that entails? Not many, I estimate.

Indeed beyond those two, who in the arts world has gone out, and continued pushing. I can't think of anyone.

As I say, Alice Cooper and Carlos Santana are minted whatever they say. Not so Roisin.

For me, the test is the enforced hostage statement/PR damage control. It hasn't happened yet.

DangerFrog · 27/08/2023 11:25

RealityFan · 24/08/2023 12:04

I'm a therapist already seeing the effects of young girls growing up into women with long term issues of osteoporosis, bad fashion decisions (please ban 24/7 use of flip flops!).

I'm dreading seeing this new wholly avoidable issue in years to come.

Totally off topic (sorry!) but could you expand on this please? Maybe in a new thread? Pretty please? 😇

Sorry, but my sister has just been diagnosed with osteoporosis and I'm worried about my own risk, and that of my daughters.

Back on topic, I've just found a new musical interest. Hadn't heard much of Roisin Murphy's music - lots to add to my playlists. Thank you!

ReeseWitherfork · 27/08/2023 11:30

How many of us would be prepared to go the full JKR or Glinner route, seeing what that entails? Not many, I estimate.

Coward as I am, I won’t even dip a toe. And I have nothing to be “cancelled” about. She’s definitely brave in my eyes. For saying anything, even if she thought it was to a handful of close trusted friends.

RealityFan · 27/08/2023 11:36

DangerFrog · 27/08/2023 11:25

Totally off topic (sorry!) but could you expand on this please? Maybe in a new thread? Pretty please? 😇

Sorry, but my sister has just been diagnosed with osteoporosis and I'm worried about my own risk, and that of my daughters.

Back on topic, I've just found a new musical interest. Hadn't heard much of Roisin Murphy's music - lots to add to my playlists. Thank you!

Happy to. In a nutshell, as a physical therapist since early 90s, there's an increase in thin girls (and even middle age/older women). Some of this is natural/idiopathic, some is the result of Instagram culture/over exercise. Sometimes eating disorders. Also a growing number of Asian women with Vitamin D issues due to not getting much sun/covering up.

More and more I'm sending female patients for osteoporosis checks (DEXA scans). Increasing numbers showing the results you don't want.

As a group we also have issues with terrible lifestyle choices patients, amongst women near the top of the list is bad exercise/diet choices and the bane of my life, the seemingly humble but in reality totally lethal flip flop.
Yes, we hate them! Lol.

I've seen one or two cases of what seem to be trans patients who've been on puberty blockers for some while, and together with extreme exercise and diet choices, are very challenging to treat.

My clinics aren't really big enough to have seen many, but I'm aware of trans medicalisation and osteoporosis risk.

As was EPATH at their recent conference, where they en masse laughed off the risk.

PatatiPatatras · 27/08/2023 11:47

@RealityFan What's with the flip flops? I'm finding an ankle injury easier to walk on in sliders and I'm going down the route of living in them all day long. Whatever the word is on them things, please spread!

RealityFan · 27/08/2023 11:54

PatatiPatatras · 27/08/2023 11:47

@RealityFan What's with the flip flops? I'm finding an ankle injury easier to walk on in sliders and I'm going down the route of living in them all day long. Whatever the word is on them things, please spread!

Flip flops! Fucking flip flops!
No arch support. No side support. Arches splay. No cushioning. Leads to impact plantar fascitis, heel, Achilles tendon issues, bony spurs. Throw in the necessity to claw your toes to grip.

And then, girls wear them all day. Walking. Dancing. Cycling. Driving. Gym.

Fuck, I've even seen girls walking up muddy icy hillsides in the country in their...flip flops.

Spawn of the devil.

Throw in osteoporosis risk otherwise, and the super thin Instagram look, and it's just a bad series of choices so many females make.

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