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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is Australia worse than UK for 'woke' agenda

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Lizzypet · 20/08/2023 19:17

Anyone here living in Aus? We lived there for 9yrs until 2016 and all of us except youngest child have citizenship. Considering possibly moving back at some point, and think I remember reading that the 'woke' situation is as bad as, or worse than here? I'm aware I'm being very generic in my description, and that a lot of people don't like the term Woke, but concerned about DC (ages 6 & 8) and what they might be exposed to in school, university etc. Grateful for any input. Thanks

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seishonagon · 16/10/2023 19:50

oops, my use of the polite asterisk in my last post resulted in some unintended bolding.

Hippyhippybake · 16/10/2023 19:57

@seishonagon I really agree with you and what you describe is very familiar. I found the aggressive banter hard to take. Happy to accept that others have had a different experience.

Helleofabore · 16/10/2023 21:01

Great. Then we have had different experiences.

As I have said, I have found the men here in the UK to be no better and no worse than those in Australia. sport, misogyny and abuse and all.

By ‘east coast, I mean far north to Canberra and working regularly with men across Australia. And seriously, “maybe you were the 5ft10 school sports captain and you could drink blokes under the table and you were fine with being a token bloke and bantering away like a bullocky.” what the actual fuck? Just for pointing out I don’t agree with your blanket description?

As I have said, I have also moved back and forth from Australia to UK and back and forth, most recently 5 years ago. So pretty current. I was also there when Gillard changed the anti-discrimination act that organisations and seemingly state governments are relying on now to make excluding male people impossible. I guess it will come down to having to be tested, but I would not be absolving Gillard of the harm of that significant change.

I will leave you to your negative generalisations.

h1d1ng1npla1ns1ght · 16/10/2023 21:15

Regarding blokey Australian men, I live in Australia and my husband is an Australian man and a lot of people did assume he was gay when he as young because he wasn’t the Aussie stereotype.

seishonagon · 17/10/2023 09:09

So, @Lizzypet have you managed to draw any useful conclusions from all this? Apart from that feelings run very high on the perennial 'Oz vs UK' debate? Not that it's a competition. Being able to live in both is a huge privilege.

Online community and parent groups in the area you might move back to could give you a flavour.

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