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Comedy event cancelled at the Fringe because of Glinner?

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/08/2023 17:29

I hadn't seen anything about this on X/Twitter previously, but apparently some activists have been putting pressure on the venue and they've cancelled an upcoming event called Comedy Unleashed because one of the comedians is Graham Linehan. How utterly pathetic. https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1691476377793409024?s=20 Seems to be organised by/associated with Andrew Doyle, aka Titania McGrath.

https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1691476377793409024?s=20

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WickedSerious · 17/08/2023 16:49

donnawinters · 17/08/2023 10:19

I bought a ticket so I will find out the venue this afternoon

Don't forget your smelling salts.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/08/2023 16:50

Brilliant that they're still going ahead tonight. Hope it goes well.

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 16:52

ScribblingPixie · 17/08/2023 16:39

And the second venue has cancelled?

Our replacement venue has cancelled on us too, but we’re still going ahead tonight at 7.30!
Ticket holders have been emailed with the new location.

Remarkable. What possessed a venue to take on a booking they knew was this one and cancel last minute? Sounds like a deliberate ploy to scupper the show.

Andrew and team must have had a reserve just in case.

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 16:55

ArabeIIaScott · 17/08/2023 16:48

Is Freda not currently suspended? From Freda's job, I mean.

I don’t know if Wallace is suspended.

Considering Wallace is a prominent activist do they qualify as ‘central’ in this ridiculous definition? If so, sending the abusive images to Henrietta, a disabled woman, should have been investigated as a sex crime. It was certainly sexual harassment.

Chersfrozenface · 17/08/2023 16:57

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 16:19

Apart from anything else, nonce is a slang word used broadly.

What is a nonce in British slang?
nonce in British English

(nɒns ) noun. derogatory, prison slang. a rapist or child molester; a sexual offender.
www.collinsdictionary.com › ...
Nonce definition in American English - Collins Dictionary

The acronym N.O.N.C.E stands for 'not on normal courtyard exercise', according to the documentary, and apparently was first coined at the jail in Yorkshire.28 Mar 2022
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Nonce, a slang term chiefly used in Britain for alleged or convicted sex offenders, especially ones involving children

Also used occasionally as a general insult, regardless of the tendencies of the person to whom the word is applied.

a person who perves on little girls and loves to talk and touch them . They also get exited when ever they see a young girl
“Nah g why is rhys such a nonce”
“Honestly he perved on me for 3 months”

Urban dictionary.

So this fantasy court case the venue owner is going to attend will need to ascertain the meaning in use first maybe?

I've been familiar with the term 'nonce' in general use for decades. I'd read somewhere that it was shortened from 'nonsense'.

The OED has the first written record of it, in prison use, in 1970, including the explanation (in the source) about the person being discussed "You know, a nonce, a nonsense, one of those sex cases."

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 16:58

So Hayden (trans) is threatening Talk TV with legal action after Talk TV put out a segment that was puppeted by Wallace (trans) and was unflattering to Hayden due to GL’s answers?

lol.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2023 17:04

fuck! Look who was ‘talking’ to the presenter and ‘told her all about Lineham’ before she did the segment?

no other than the abusive ambo driver who sometimes drops by to tell off women who disagree with Wallace. F Wallace, no less!

What an idiot.

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:05

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 16:58

So Hayden (trans) is threatening Talk TV with legal action after Talk TV put out a segment that was puppeted by Wallace (trans) and was unflattering to Hayden due to GL’s answers?

lol.

I know, they soon end up in the middle of their own shit sandwich 🥪

Datun · 17/08/2023 17:06

Andrew Doyle said Glinner will do it on a street corner, if necessary.

They're not going to stop him.

so not only will it be in vain, they will just be added to the list of people to sue.

MavisMcMinty · 17/08/2023 17:08

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/08/2023 16:13

Every filter in the world has been applied to that profile pic. Hard to believe this is the same individual.

What what what what whaaaaaat? OMFG.

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:11

I just watched a compilation of Glinner's comments on Talk TV being circulated by Willoughby.

Everything he said is factual!

The presenter was obviously getting panicky producer messages in her ears when he started talking about the Challenors despite every word being true.

I don't think Challenor's dad is going to sue them from prison for mentioning the 24 year prison sentence.

And it was really funny hearing her say, I love your comedy, the it crowds....

She's never watched the show, obviously.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 17:14

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:11

I just watched a compilation of Glinner's comments on Talk TV being circulated by Willoughby.

Everything he said is factual!

The presenter was obviously getting panicky producer messages in her ears when he started talking about the Challenors despite every word being true.

I don't think Challenor's dad is going to sue them from prison for mentioning the 24 year prison sentence.

And it was really funny hearing her say, I love your comedy, the it crowds....

She's never watched the show, obviously.

Hilarious.

Surely IW has noticed that GL WANTS the clip shared and the person trying to prevent it is a transgender person/transactivist? Talk about taking a shit on your own doorstep, India!

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:16

Of Challenors dad she said, they aren't here to defend themselves.

That's probably because, as Graham just told you, he's in prison for 24 years!

IwantToRetire · 17/08/2023 17:19

Have just seen that the metro newspaper is saying the talk tv interview has been withdrawn because:
Graham Linehan said horrible things about trans people
Graham Linehan talked over the interviewer
(Sorry dont have link metro web sit seems to be down)

The cancelation was an item on the Storm Huntly show on C5. It is the third trans item they have had this week, and just like the appalling discussion re JKR and museum, inviting Helen Webberley on to speak, today's item was the same. All the women go how awful that people are so horrible to this vulnerable community. The men go what's the problem, but never refer to women's rights.

And as someone who doesn't watch daytime tv made me think how many shows are pumping out this TRA ideology?

Lets face it a tiny miniscule % of the population are on Xtwitter. But mainstream media, print and tv have a far wider reach.

So would be more interesed in a list of all those who have used their platform as part of MSM to peddle that trans myth.

And in the specific instance of the subjet of this thread have managed to censure and erase someone who was, if not a central figure, but a well established figure in the media world.

GL may not always be the best ambassador for himself, or women's sex based rights, but if he can be cancelled, it shows the power of the MSM.

And as we know from the women who have suffered the same fate, the MSM will never admit it has ever made a mistake. So this censoring and manipulation is going to continue for years. Even if only to protect their own reputations.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4764987-graham-linehan-interview-in-the-times-17-march-2023

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 17:27

Metro is signed up to IPSO:

https://www.ipso.co.uk/complain/complaints-form/

They need to edit that article until it’s factual.

Bet Hayden is well pissed off that the Metro have made it seem like Hayden has no influence.

Complaints form

https://www.ipso.co.uk/complain/complaints-form/

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:41

The Father Ted writer, 55, floundered when he was questioned by Uncensored presenter Rosanna Lockwood, who was standing in for Piers Morgan, on Wednesday night.

He wasn't floundering at all! He was very accurate.

During the segment, The IT Crowd creator made shocking claims about the trans community and frequently talked over Rosanna.

What he said is shocking but non of them are claims, they are all verified facts as he said to her.

At one point, Linehan raised his voice when Rosanna interjected to inform him he was veering away from the subject of discussion to which he snapped: ‘Don’t lecture me.’

She was lecturing him and very badly, he told her she didn't know enough about the subject to interview him properly about his views.

She was asking him about the things he's said and he's repeating the things he's said to her and she's telling him that mentioning known and convicted pedophiles is bad for his reputation!

What a strange woman. Useless as a journalist.

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:43

So many people just don't WANT to hear it, they would far rather smear the person saying it than have the actual issue discussed.

This is so prevalent.

IwantToRetire · 17/08/2023 17:48

What a strange woman. Useless as a journalist.

But unfortunately all her media cronies aren't pointing this out.

So yet again media figures and gaining together to protect themselves - and are happy to organise a pile on on whoever is the current hate figure.

But thanks for commentary on the interview.

I do worry that the influence of US car crash tv is going to mean we will see more and more of this, and that the media will decide who can or cant have a voice. Let alone anyone speaking up for women's rights.

I totally understand about how wrong cancelling the show is, but because the focus of the reporting it this, no one is saying why should someone by cancelled for talking about women's rights.

IwantToRetire · 17/08/2023 17:50

sorry - forgot to check for typos!

media figures and gaining together
media figures are ganging together

Snowypeaks · 17/08/2023 17:51

Come on, Andrew Neil! How about stepping up right about now?

donnawinters · 17/08/2023 18:12

2nd venue cancelled sadly.

Where's the new one?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/08/2023 18:14

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 17:41

The Father Ted writer, 55, floundered when he was questioned by Uncensored presenter Rosanna Lockwood, who was standing in for Piers Morgan, on Wednesday night.

He wasn't floundering at all! He was very accurate.

During the segment, The IT Crowd creator made shocking claims about the trans community and frequently talked over Rosanna.

What he said is shocking but non of them are claims, they are all verified facts as he said to her.

At one point, Linehan raised his voice when Rosanna interjected to inform him he was veering away from the subject of discussion to which he snapped: ‘Don’t lecture me.’

She was lecturing him and very badly, he told her she didn't know enough about the subject to interview him properly about his views.

She was asking him about the things he's said and he's repeating the things he's said to her and she's telling him that mentioning known and convicted pedophiles is bad for his reputation!

What a strange woman. Useless as a journalist.

Journalist my foot. I had a quick look at Twitter earlier and she put out a self-pitying and attention-seeking message about how awful her feed was. A likeminded chum said he was so sorry this was happening to her and she bravely responded that it was OK, she'd muted them all. So in other words, she's deliberately closed her ears, eyes and mind to all the people pointing out that she is sadly misinformed, and why. What a numpty.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/08/2023 18:14

I thought you had tickets donna? If you do then you will be emailed with the location. Unsurprisingly they’re not going to release the location publicly