KJK and the neo-nazis video

[niandraladesand]

Just wondering if anyone here has seen this yet and what you think of it

I've watched most of her videos. I do t need to watch a bloke droning on for 2 hours telling me that I can't believe my own eyes.

It's because she doesn't know her place

The receipts are in the video🙂

Can you point to her ACTUAL WORDS please OP which show that she is anti-semetic? Or is it just some video edited to show that she is somehow 'in cahoots' with neo-nazis...

Or is it just that you don't like her, what she stands for and are trying (and failing) to discredit her.

I just went and started playing that video. it's that boring droning bloke, I think someone tried pushing his stuff on here before. he's got a slightly weak 'f' when he speaks iirc

and then I noticed it's 2 hours. sweet suffering soccotash @niandraladesand , you're going to have to give me some enticement if I'm going to watch that

maybe give some time stamps of the bits that especially spoke to you? or some quotes or something.

and the video is two hours chicken

give me some motivation here. what bits spoke to you?

None of this is true. Hitler was homophobic & transphobic. Books about transgenderism were burned, gay people put in gas chambers. One of the things Hitler pushed against Jewish people was claiming that they were pro gay and transgenderism.

'Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous'

Silencing dissent
Medically experimenting on children
Getting women (and men) cancelled, sacked, in trouble for raising concerns about safeguarding children / women's rights
Encouraging the alienation of children from their families
Operating behind closed doors and away from democratic scrutiny

That all seems pretty fascistic to me 😑 Not to mention Orwell's famous comment:

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

my post is being reported and my history on MN is being scrutinised, all because i disagree with the majority of FWR posters

Nobody bothered to engage because this kite flying has been going on for years, which if you have a history on FWR, you will know.

Added to which because it is FWR we would be more likely to respond if women who had actually been present at a KJK event, or watched one of her videos, was able to provide their own analysis.

Why would any of us listen to some man drone on for 2 hours because you think we should.

Added to which many of us have watched Let Women Speak events etc., and the idea that they are somehow part of Nazi ideology, and that women are being duped into taking part is ludicrous.

If you are so sure she is a nazi please show how you yourself have arrived at that position and on what basis.

Just to stress, if you have a "history" on FWR you would be only too aware that there have been endless threads attempting to say KJK is a nazi, eg supposed evidence from Brighton, which was shown to be pie in the sky.

Just to help you with your research, here is a link to the Let Women Speak events. Please do let us know where nazi ideology is being shared. https://www.youtube.com/@KellieJayKeen/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=3

Like others on this thread have said, I am not a full out KJK fan, but the ridiculous accusations made against her are just not even student politics, but at best 6th Form nonsense.

So first of all do a search of FWR and see how often this childish political analysis has been floated and knocked down.

And if by some strange twist you discover for yourself some indisputable evidence of KJK being a nazi please do post a link.

Otherwise you just sound like one of the many handmaidens of the antifa aunt lydias ie Actual Gender Critical Left, who live in a delerium of attempting to smear KJK. When in fact their problem is, like most of the left, totally unable to provide an analysis, or an event, or a campaign that is of any interest to women who are opposed to the erasure of women and sex based reality as spouted by TRAs.

OP here is a video of the woman herself talking about this, in her own words.

And hey it's not even 2 hours long - but even if you don't have much time you can skip to about minute 20 or so they start talking about it.

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Maybe the bit at the end where KJK is splashing around like Scrooge McDuck in piles of Nazi gold.

Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous, and it's really depressing to see it being pushed on a forum that's supposedly feminist.

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Not sure if niand realises the company they are in posting this stuff, the posters who only ever post this sort of stuff but run a mile when womens sports are mentioned, or kids being medicalised - I would be mortified once I realised that………also if they were familiar with the board they would know the plop and run tactic. Anyway anyone who thinks KJK wasn’t taking the piss when she said she’s transphobic is definitely reaching for something

Where’s Merlin when you don’t need them?!

I have no bad words to say about a woman that looks this good covered in soup and who sends us cheese!

Oh I see. No actual knowledge of the nazi or the neo-nazi movement, its aims, beliefs, and an argument as to how this is similar to women wanting equality of access, sex based rights, the right to homosexuality or child safeguarding then.

Just KJK's got the lurgy (run away giggling)

Tedious and infantile. Come with a decent conversation to have rather than 'here's two hours of people randomly slagging off someone' and I'll gladly discuss with you.

Always entertained too by an OP too busy to discuss their own thread or have any actual conversation, but expects women to spend two hours of their life watching bullshit 'cos the receipts are all in there'.

You know I miss the old days when ppl coming on here to slag us off at least had the balls to say it outright rather than do this ‘I’m as GC as they come and totally a feminist no really but KJK and nazis’ bollocks

I've given myself a good talking tho and would like to make an announcement

"Oh my god OP you are so right, how have I been so stupid to not see the light the first 10000 times. But this time, this time I totally get it! She is not the messiah she is a very naughty girl"

Please, in your own words, not someone else's via a two-hour video, which of KJK's talking points are fascistic?

• Men have no place in women's spaces including but not limited to sports, prisons, hospital wards, domestic violence shelters etc.
• It is wrong to give children puberty blocking drugs
• It is wrong to cut teen girls' breasts off because they are struggling with puberty
• It is wrong to mutilate the genitals of anyone, especially minors who are unable to give informed consent
• Institutions should not remove the words 'women' and 'female' from matters concerning women and females
• Teachers should not present transgender beliefs, to their pupils, as fact
• women should be able to organise and campaign for their rights free of interference, intimidation and violence
• public institutions should remain neutral

There are others I've heard her share and I can't think of any that I would call fascistic.

In Nazi Germany men could get a Transgender pass which allowed them to cross-dress without being arrested as homosexuals. There are numerous photos of senior Nazi officers cross-dressing. The Nazis were absolutely on board with trans.

I did these just after the awful event in New Zealand when the TRA thugs attacked and injured women who just wanted to speak.

If people actually think this woman and those who support her are aligned with the third Reich then they really need to have a word with themselves and maybe try watching her events or attending them. Then you'll see which side are the ones with the views more aligned to those in power in 1940s Germany.

I am growing tired of the "X is a fascist" position. No one ever seems to be willing to say how they define a fascist, or precisely what it is that someone has said or done that makes them a fascist. Other than perhaps someone is fascist by association, which seems a somewhat thin argument.

Ok, just for the sake of civil conversation, did a quick run on Wikipedia.

There is one neo-nazi group of note in the UK: "The Sonnenkrieg Division (Sonnenkrieg being German for "sun war") is a neo-Nazi group that is the United Kingdom-based branch of the Atomwaffen Division, and it maintains its links to the Atomwaffen Division by e-mail and chat room discussion as well as by its use of similar names and its distribution of similar propaganda. It surfaced in December 2018, when it was revealed that members of the group had suggested on the group's Discord server that Prince Harry was a "race traitor" who should be shot for marrying Meghan Markle, who is of mixed race; that police officers should be raped and killed; and that white women who date non-whites should be hanged."

Um, so far, not seeing any link here whatsoever with the aims and beliefs of say Fair Play for Women, or Sex Matters. Both groups with fairly strong feelings about women not being raped or abused such as by carving swastikas in them which a member of this group was jailed for, and massive lack of mention of shooting or terrorism offenses for which some of the Sonnenkrieg Division members have been jailed.

Also massive lack of time spent or evidence of belief in racial supremacy, antisemiticism and islamophobia (much time in fact spent mentioning how women of these faiths are excluded by male people insisting on using female spaces, Hampstead Ponds for example where male people have three ponds to pick from and Jewish women can't use the ponds at all any more. Oddly enough, the TQ lobby don't care about this.

Homophobia - ? Well, it's largely these womens groups standing up for the right of homosexual women to be exclusively same sex attracted regardless of whether or not male people find this upsetting, and to resist the idea that a woman who will not 'learn to cope' with straight sex to avoid messing with a male person's lesbian self identity is a 'sexual racist' and should be dirt napped/kerb stomped etc. Plenty of evidence of that, try Terfisaslur.com. Major lack of ultra nationalism too, these women groups aren't interested in that, they just want women to have the same equality of access to facilities as being made available to males of all identities, and to continue to have sex based rights.

So I'm lost. You're going to have to explain the link.

If this was anything more than a lazy slur without any thought behind it that is. Because ha ha, people in uniform turned up to a free open event and now KJK has cooties.

Link went highly weird, I'll try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism Information taken from this page.