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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK and the neo-nazis video

533 replies

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 11:15

Just wondering if anyone here has seen this yet and what you think of it

Kellie-Jay & the Neo-Nazis

Content warning: Transphobia, homophobia, racism, antisemitism, suicide, sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, violence, abortion Videos I mentioned:The Witch Tr...

https://youtu.be/JBy93QX7ysE

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IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 20:47

Goodness - now we have found out by accident that the UK entry in wikipedia is identified by the Union Jack.

This means the UK is a nazi conspiracy because we all know the Union Jack is the not very secret signal of the NF.

Well this makes it much clearer. Everyone in the UK is a nazi.

terryleather · 15/07/2023 20:49

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/07/2023 20:22

You know I miss the old days when ppl coming on here to slag us off at least had the balls to say it outright rather than do this ‘I’m as GC as they come and totally a feminist no really but KJK and nazis’ bollocks

It makes me almost wistful for the days of the Midnight Misogynist, at least we got good recipes out of that...but maybe I shouldn't tempt fate.

WickedSerious · 15/07/2023 21:07

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 20:47

Goodness - now we have found out by accident that the UK entry in wikipedia is identified by the Union Jack.

This means the UK is a nazi conspiracy because we all know the Union Jack is the not very secret signal of the NF.

Well this makes it much clearer. Everyone in the UK is a nazi.

Cue Eastenders style drum roll....

JanesLittleGirl · 15/07/2023 21:24

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 20:47

Goodness - now we have found out by accident that the UK entry in wikipedia is identified by the Union Jack.

This means the UK is a nazi conspiracy because we all know the Union Jack is the not very secret signal of the NF.

Well this makes it much clearer. Everyone in the UK is a nazi.

Apart from me because I know my national flag is the Union Flag and not the Union Jack.

JanesLittleGirl · 15/07/2023 21:31

So KJK is a Nazi, a neo-nazi and a fascist. You do realise that these are not synonyms but are different political positions.

PurpleBugz · 15/07/2023 21:34

@ToriaB

I'm on the same side as you in this debate. If you can link any of theses photos and point me to more info on this I could easily spend a couple hours tomorrow reading all around this topic.

I'm seeing this pattern where TRA tactics are looking like how the Nazis started. I'm seeing the most non nazi people accused of being Nazis by people acting much more nazi themselves. I think I don't know much about the Nazis and that history and I actually really need to read up on it and I'd link to read about what you mentioned in your comment.

PurpleBugz · 15/07/2023 21:41

Froodwithatowel · 15/07/2023 20:48

I'll just leave this here.

That was absolutely brilliant thank you so much for that

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/07/2023 21:41

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 17:16

I suspect the purpose of this thread was to get the title on FWR.

Not sure if everyone realises but google (and possibily others) instantly add FWR titles to their search engine.

So this means it will now appear when anyone searches KJK it will appear she is linked to Nazis - source MN FWR.

So no need to take part in a discussion. The purpose has been achieved.

If I thought it worthwhile I would report to MNHQ that this is a bad faith thread and an attempt to publicly smear a well known person.

Well, I've just reported the thread, so we shall see.

Incidentally, did anyone else think Shaun sounds just like Freda Wallace?

Helleofabore · 15/07/2023 21:54

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:39

The receipts are in the video🙂

Are you unable today produce them independent of the video? Gosh, you and lettuce seem to be easy convinced.

Are you always so easily led by people who reinforce your own prejudices? Maybe I am a born skeptic who needs to see original sources to believe most people.

Or maybe I am not so quick to judge people. I don’t even tend to judge extreme trans activists until I see a pattern of behaviour that I verify is from them.

Your posts are not coming across as informed at all. Yet you don’t seem to understand that.

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/07/2023 22:00

OP also doesn't appear to understand the laws concerning slander and libel. OP should reflect on this and consider asking MNHQ to take down this thread.

Hepwo · 15/07/2023 22:07

Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous, and it's really depressing to see it being pushed on a forum that's supposedly feminist

Oh dear. Perhaps you ought to see a doctor about that? Depression caused by people mentioning that women are adult human females is treatable.

Depression can cause you to imagine there are dangerous fascists saying things like adult human female in Hyde Park as you lose your grip on reality.

With the right medication and perhaps counselling hopefully in a year or so you can read those words without it triggering thoughts of danger, and you will come to realise that it's just ordinary women after all.

Speedy recovery. 🙏

TheGreatATuin · 15/07/2023 22:08

Suzi89 · 15/07/2023 19:43

None of this is true. Hitler was homophobic & transphobic. Books about transgenderism were burned, gay people put in gas chambers. One of the things Hitler pushed against Jewish people was claiming that they were pro gay and transgenderism.

It is true. I suspect what you mean is that you haven't done any actual research but it doesnt fit your existing beliefs. It might be an inconvenient truth, but still true.
I also note that you've taken gay people's struggles under Nazism and used that to make claims about trans people. Don't do that. It's homophobic AF and erases the very real history of gay people murdered under Nazism.

Helleofabore · 15/07/2023 22:08

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:31

What do you think is in bad faith about this thread? I wanted opinions on the video which people aren't even bothering to watch before arguing and throwing insults at me. I haven't reported the personal attacks, but my post is being reported and my history on MN is being scrutinised, all because i disagree with the majority of FWR posters. And yet those same posters are always complaining about the other side not wanting to debate.

I haven't engaged with the thread much because I've been busy. It would never have occurred to me to make a thread just to get it into the search results - if engagement is what drives a higher search result then it isn't me doing that.

I remember when KJK was a controversial figure on here but now i see her talking points raised in almost every thread on FWR. Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous, and it's really depressing to see it being pushed on a forum that's supposedly feminist.

You created a thread about a video from an individual who is a self identified social media ‘influencer’ who relies on clicks for their fame. They have nothing but their biased and prejudiced views. It has been debunked on FWR before.

As I and others have already told you, it is all based on fallacy. Guilt by association is a very lazy approach to trying to discredit someone.

If you start a thread such as this, you don’t start it and then disappear. Why the fuck start it if you are too busy to engage? Why the fuck should any person spend two hours on a video that you have added nothing to except the OP and whining posts?

If you have not one shred of commentary to offer, don’t bother starting a thread about a video from a male individual who is no fucking feminist on a feminist forum! You complain people have stated they believe you are bad faith, and your actions so far have confirmed this. So, you have nothing to offer. Just the video and you want others to ‘discuss it’.

Fuck that. Why should one poster spend time going over information we have constantly posted on before.

Fucking use the advanced search and do your own fucking research like a fucking grown up.

ArabeIIaScott · 15/07/2023 23:19

In the deserts of Sudan
And the gardens of Japan

From Milan to Yucatán
Every woman, every man

Hit me with your 'fascistic'
Hit me, hit me

Je t'adore, ich liebe dich
Hit me, hit me, hit me

Hit me with your 'fascist' schtick
Hit me slowly, hit me quick

Hit me, hit me
Hit me

IwantToRetire · 16/07/2023 00:07

Apart from me because I know my national flag is the Union Flag and not the Union Jack.

The term ‘jack’ was used before 1600 to describe a small flag, with the pole named after the flag about 150 years later. Calling the Union Flag a ‘jack’ thus refers to the time when it was often used in a small format.

Some of us aren't ostentatious. We show our "allegiances" in small ways.

Presumably you have your own quadrangle and full height flagpole.

FigRollsAlly · 16/07/2023 00:56

ArabeIIaScott · 15/07/2023 23:19

In the deserts of Sudan
And the gardens of Japan

From Milan to Yucatán
Every woman, every man

Hit me with your 'fascistic'
Hit me, hit me

Je t'adore, ich liebe dich
Hit me, hit me, hit me

Hit me with your 'fascist' schtick
Hit me slowly, hit me quick

Hit me, hit me
Hit me

V good. Love Ian Dury!

AutumnCrow · 16/07/2023 01:58

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:34

Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous

oh man

receipts please lovey

Isn't that statement from the OP, erm, defamatory ..? How is it even still up on here? Crikey.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/07/2023 08:41

ArabeIIaScott · 15/07/2023 23:19

In the deserts of Sudan
And the gardens of Japan

From Milan to Yucatán
Every woman, every man

Hit me with your 'fascistic'
Hit me, hit me

Je t'adore, ich liebe dich
Hit me, hit me, hit me

Hit me with your 'fascist' schtick
Hit me slowly, hit me quick

Hit me, hit me
Hit me

😍

Marry me Arabella

I see being asked to explain why she thinks what she thinks has scared the OP off. It’s probably bullying or something

fuck me I am so unbelievably tired of people with received opinions who are unable to explain why they believe what they believe and don’t seem the least bit worried by that

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/07/2023 08:46

Also I am sitting here humus ‘everyone I don’t like is literally Hitler’ and I suspect it’s going to go on all day

so thanks for that @Froodwithatowel

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/07/2023 08:47

Humus should of course be humming

sometimes I suspect that my phone is possessed

maybe literally by Hitler?

TheBiologyStupid · 16/07/2023 08:50

SerafinasGoose · 15/07/2023 14:23

Classic projection.

Who: a) carried out experimental medical procedures on children; b) had an unaccountable fondness for shouting slogans and waving flags everywhere; c) were homophobic; d) attempted to stymie free speech because it threatened their ideology; e) entertained no debate or questioning; f) used government propaganda to enforce conformity with their ideology; g) threatened violence or death against those who refused to be silenced; h) turned on anyone, including allies, who fell any way short of 100% compliance?

Was it:

Feminists?
Nazis?
'Trans rights' activists?

QED.

This!

ArabeIIaScott · 16/07/2023 09:22

I hate it when Hitler gets in your phone. Try reset to fascistic settings?

teawamutu · 16/07/2023 09:32

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:39

The receipts are in the video🙂

No, that's not how this works.

Time stamps or direct, verbatim quotes of the evidence that particularly convinced you, please.

Don't take this personally, but there's oceans of misogynist shite out there about KJK, JKR and all women who put their head over the parapet and I've a million better things to do than wade through one more man's hot take.

If there's a particularly good point IYO I'll go take a look, though, so have at it.

clothesintervention · 16/07/2023 09:37

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:31

What do you think is in bad faith about this thread? I wanted opinions on the video which people aren't even bothering to watch before arguing and throwing insults at me. I haven't reported the personal attacks, but my post is being reported and my history on MN is being scrutinised, all because i disagree with the majority of FWR posters. And yet those same posters are always complaining about the other side not wanting to debate.

I haven't engaged with the thread much because I've been busy. It would never have occurred to me to make a thread just to get it into the search results - if engagement is what drives a higher search result then it isn't me doing that.

I remember when KJK was a controversial figure on here but now i see her talking points raised in almost every thread on FWR. Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous, and it's really depressing to see it being pushed on a forum that's supposedly feminist.

I totally agree.

I was a FWR regular, used to post here all the time.

Can't be arsed now as any spirit of intelligent, thoughtful debate is gone.

All these posters, effectively putting their fingers in their ears and going la-la-la as they have swallowed KJK's narc bullshit.

That they won't even watch the video before commenting speaks volumes.

It's a waste of time, they're not engaging their brains, they're just repeating what they know they're meant to say.

It's very, very similar to arguing with TRAs.