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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UCI new policy

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DistantVworp · 14/07/2023 13:55

Changing categories to Men/Open and women. About time!

www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2023/07/14/transgender-cycling-news-uci-bans-athletes-female-races/

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NitroNine · 06/08/2023 19:14

“Holding to ransome” makes one envision female cyclists channelling their inner Amazon Pirate & shivering some people’s timbers for them…

BCCoach · 06/08/2023 21:01

Just watching the men’s road race and the UCI just deadnamed Phillipa York. Passing the beautiful mural of Phillipa in the KOM jersey at Crow Road and the captions came up saying it was a mural of Robert Millar.

You could hear the panic in Simon Brotherton’s voice as he quickly said it was a mural of Pip York. Pointed silence from Haley…

MaximusPaddimous · 06/08/2023 21:28

PY has been whinging on Twitter all week about a. Not been given commentating work this week and b. People referring to him as Robert Millar.
I don’t understand his problem. PY does not exist in cycling history, RM does. And let’s face it if he’d been PY in his 20s, he wouldn’t have a cycling career. Can’t have it both ways, Pippa.

BCCoach · 06/08/2023 22:33

Putting all that aside, what an insane race though.

334bu · 06/08/2023 22:34

Also a self confessed drug cheat, so why would the BBC ever consider them suitable to be a presenter.

BCCoach · 06/08/2023 22:41

334bu · 06/08/2023 22:34

Also a self confessed drug cheat, so why would the BBC ever consider them suitable to be a presenter.

Being an ex-doper hasn’t been any impediment to the broadcast career of anyone named Millar…

puffyisgood · 06/08/2023 23:01

Sandy tried to raise a few chuckles from her following by pointing out how many international netball players are unusually tall by female standards (and nobody calls that unfair, etc?) but didn't seem to get, well, any traction, I can't think why...

SabrinaThwaite · 06/08/2023 23:24

puffyisgood · 06/08/2023 23:01

Sandy tried to raise a few chuckles from her following by pointing out how many international netball players are unusually tall by female standards (and nobody calls that unfair, etc?) but didn't seem to get, well, any traction, I can't think why...

The Phelps Gambit is the last resort of people who know that cheating is wrong but look for any excuses when it’s their own child that is a big fucking cheat.

2Rebecca · 07/08/2023 07:49

Surely the mural is of Robert Millar though not Pippa York as they hadn't changed gender then and couldn't have won the KOM as Pippa as you have to be a man to be in the race. Jenner understands this. Otherwise PY's achievements pretransition get ignored and no-one comments on the mural or makes murals as afraid of getting it wrong

puffyisgood · 07/08/2023 09:59

changing the surname was unfortunate in this context because 'Pippa York' is not a name that anyone would recognise. a more traditional 'Roberta Miller' style change would imo have made it much likelier that the new name would be used in a situation like this.

Baldieheid · 07/08/2023 12:31

Robert Millar was the competitive cyclist.

How the individual feels about themselves now is irrelevant. Robert's achievements are left behind when a new identity is taken. Robert "no longer exists".

That's how it works. It's what they've been telling the rest of us for years.

2Rebecca · 07/08/2023 14:18

Are you sure those Thundercrit results were 2023 not 2022 Sabrina? They look like the 2022 results to me on 29 July 2022

SabrinaThwaite · 07/08/2023 17:38

2Rebecca · 07/08/2023 14:18

Are you sure those Thundercrit results were 2023 not 2022 Sabrina? They look like the 2022 results to me on 29 July 2022

It’s definitely the Thundercrit 7 results, from 2023.

Last year Bridges won and Chant came 2nd (THAT podium photo).

This year Bridges was beaten by Kiana Gysin, another TW. Bridges has posted about this on SM.

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