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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UCI new policy

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DistantVworp · 14/07/2023 13:55

Changing categories to Men/Open and women. About time!

www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2023/07/14/transgender-cycling-news-uci-bans-athletes-female-races/

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ScrollingLeaves · 15/07/2023 13:57

Yes, a ‘blanket exclusion’ means every single category is excluded which is not the case.

MaximusPaddimous · 15/07/2023 15:49

Sandy is STILL raging on Twitter. Can you imagine what’s she like in real life?

Signalbox · 16/07/2023 07:33

VI isn’t happy either. Says only “cis men” and TW will be in the open category which means it’s not open at all. I think VI’s got a point. Open really just means men 😂

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MaximusPaddimous · 16/07/2023 07:42

I’ve run out of fucks for people like Ivy and Bridges.

Backstreets · 16/07/2023 07:43

Haha! Lovely start to my day seeing that cheating demon seething! VI has stolen so many medals from women, even in fat arsed middle age.

TheBiologyStupid · 16/07/2023 08:31

Signalbox · 16/07/2023 07:33

VI isn’t happy either. Says only “cis men” and TW will be in the open category which means it’s not open at all. I think VI’s got a point. Open really just means men 😂

#Bikeporn?!

RudsyFarmer · 16/07/2023 08:33

Ooh that’s going to go down like bag of sick isn’t it?

KiteofUncertainty · 16/07/2023 08:36

Does this ruling apply to Breeze rides?

KiteofUncertainty · 16/07/2023 08:38

What a shame this didn't happen before. Some talented women have already given up competitive cycling.

SabrinaThwaite · 16/07/2023 09:28

Signalbox · 16/07/2023 07:33

VI isn’t happy either. Says only “cis men” and TW will be in the open category which means it’s not open at all. I think VI’s got a point. Open really just means men 😂

VI only wants to race “cis women”?

I wonder why 🤔

Helleofabore · 16/07/2023 10:06

Signalbox · 16/07/2023 07:33

VI isn’t happy either. Says only “cis men” and TW will be in the open category which means it’s not open at all. I think VI’s got a point. Open really just means men 😂

Yippee!! Female riders will now take all the places in that race. And not one that used linguistic trickery of ‘but people use my pronouns’ so society sees me as a woman, therefore I am female!

I don’t have a shred of sympathy for any of these males. It they respected women and girls and respected sport they would never have sought to compete in female sporting events. But they did. They cannot try for sympathy for being strung along either. Why did they ever insist on forcing this issue in the first place?? Or are they so desperate to in forcing their own perceptions onto society that they fully believed those assuring them with falsehoods that they really were like all those other female athletes, and it was totally fair ! Gosh they were just better at it than those female athletes!

Ivy was a fucking university lecturer, and Bridges is or was in uni! These are supposedly intelligent people!

CyclingSam · 16/07/2023 10:42

"These are supposedly intelligent people!"

I've had a certain song on earworm loop for a few years now...

One of my favourite comments to Ivy's Instagram post: "Wave to us from the back." https://www.notanothercyclingforum.net/index.php?topic=7402.msg17652#msg17652
MaximusPaddimous · 16/07/2023 15:01

KiteofUncertainty · 16/07/2023 08:36

Does this ruling apply to Breeze rides?

No. TW are men for racing but in recreational rides they’re classes as women again.

KiteofUncertainty · 16/07/2023 15:37

MaximusPaddimous · 16/07/2023 15:01

No. TW are men for racing but in recreational rides they’re classes as women again.

Thank you. Aargh.

Is Breeze an independent organisation, then?

MaximusPaddimous · 16/07/2023 16:15

No. It’s a Sport England funded project run by British Cycling to encourage an underrepresented group (women) into cycling.

KiteofUncertainty · 16/07/2023 16:41

MaximusPaddimous · 16/07/2023 16:15

No. It’s a Sport England funded project run by British Cycling to encourage an underrepresented group (women) into cycling.

Ironic.
Thanks again.

MaximusPaddimous · 16/07/2023 16:43

You’re welcome. It’s a nonsense position funded by public money but there’s no lever from Sport England to make British Cycling keep the project just for females.
You just can’t make this shit up anymore.

Signalbox · 17/07/2023 08:50

Austin Killips statement is something else entirely…

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BCCoach · 17/07/2023 08:54

Fantastic news. Great to see they are following where BC lead ☺️🚴💨

Helleofabore · 17/07/2023 09:02

Signalbox · 17/07/2023 08:50

Austin Killips statement is something else entirely…

Yowsers! That is some statement.

‘I knew it was only a fleeting moment when I could beat women so much and profit from it, and I sunk every dollar into doing just that’ is how I read it.

And why do these male people talk about telling their competition how much they love and care for them. It come across like an abusive male charter. They never see it though.

BCCoach · 17/07/2023 09:10

@Signalbox she isn’t even correct. It’s always been the case that women have raced unofficially in men’s races when there hasn’t been a big enough field to put on women’s race, particularly in cat 4 (entry level) races. The open category just makes this official and means they will actually get qualifying points (which they didn’t previously when racing in a men’s race, even if they placed).

BCCoach · 17/07/2023 09:41

Signalbox · 14/07/2023 17:40

So will this prevent Austin Killips from running off with any more women's prize money? Or is he competing under a different set of regulations? Also will it stop men competing in the women's Olympic events?

It will prevent them from racing most CX races (there are some unaffiliated ones) but won’t prevent them from racing gravel which is not affiliated to the UCI and is the biggest racing scene in the US. Every gravel race sets its own rules, there’s no central organisation or regulation. Oh, and no anti-doping either.

Yes this applies to the Olympics as Olympic regulations follow those of the world federation for each sport (so the UCI in the case of cycling).

SabrinaThwaite · 17/07/2023 10:43

I’m struggling to understand why, if people like Killips and Bridges claim to love their sport so much, they are saying that it’s all over for them now?

Nobody is banned. Nobody is being told they can’t take part. Nobody is being excluded.

Helleofabore · 17/07/2023 11:33

Because they want to win. They want the accolades. And they will not get that in the open competition.

I suspect it is that they thrive on being 'special' in some way.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 17/07/2023 11:42

The comments are gold under VI's instagram post.

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