Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:09

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Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:14

Seemed fitting!

Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:14

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:04

Yeah that was childish even I can admit that. Can do better than that. Hey at least I can admit when i'm wrong hey. Idk I think forcing someone to apologise for something they already apologised for is kinda weird though.

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Honestly. Go and look at where you think you apologised and cut and paste the time stamp in a post.

MavisMcMinty · 06/07/2023 02:16

“It’s my dyslexia!” is not an apology. Gosh, we’re learnin’ you good tonight.

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:18

Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:00

”Also transitioning is bad. Remove safety and protections for vital surgeries such as mastectomy's and watch as Trans Masc people flock to other countries for surgery or try to perform it themselves. A bit like how most Trans Women have to trust DIY sources of Estrogen that haven't been properly chemically tested in a laboratory despite nearly every other developed country in the world having a better more efficient system.”

This is more emotive hyperbole and threats. Blaming people who are raising alarms rather than acknowledging that treatment at the moment is poor quality due to the fact it is experimental for children and teens. And rather than turning towards a community that spreads misinformation and falsehoods rather than supporting proper exploration and truthfulness.

”If that wasn't bad enough now pretend Trans people don't exist. Don't use any of the pronouns they give, tell your trans children they’re making a bad choice and have them either hate you for it or feel entirely indifferent and ashamed of it.”

There is more hyperbole. Of course trans people exist. More trope. And you have no idea what parents on this forum believe. You have made assumptions.

You have been wrong so many times tonight, surely you must be wondering where you are getting your information from? Or is it that you tell yourself you are right and ignore the studies and the truth.

“Can you not see how some of the stuff you say makes sense but you sprinkle in these nuggets of hatred in every little crack like thinking people having a mastectomy is wrong even though they should have body autonomy as an adult or assuming this stuff is easy for Trans individuals and there just doing it as part of a social contagion”

You really have nothing but the emotive hyperbole. Obviously it works with your mates. No wonder you are angry despite people taking time to talk to you.

It's not a threat it is a fact. People in the UK already go to Thailand or if they have the money the Netherlands for these kind of surgeries because the NHS wont provide them properly without waiting a century. I'm assuming from your response you have no idea about this and think it must be easy.
I'm not talking about teens i'm talking about full grown adults. No teen should be undergoing GRS or a mastectomy.

And you have no idea what parents on this forum believe. You have made assumptions Just like the people in this forum have. From my age, where I live and apparently most baffling of all what my own grandma would think of me despite not knowing anything about her.

You have been wrong so many times tonight, surely you must be wondering where you are getting your information from?
From the 3 trans women and 1 non binary person I know and there reaction from there same parents which is the same stuff I hear here. I guess I should expect you to go back and find the exact post I explained this in detail like you did for me though with each of there experiences

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:21

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Again with the assumptions. you gotta stop it girls it's making me think you can read my mind

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:28

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Sorry I made an assumption there. I'll add it to the pile you made of me. Even things out

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:30

I gotta figure out how to do bold text it's very expressive

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:30

Any hints? Guessing that'l be a no

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:31

Can't wait for all of my comments to be removed for hate speech while you all get away with murder. Fun times.

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:31

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:18

It's not a threat it is a fact. People in the UK already go to Thailand or if they have the money the Netherlands for these kind of surgeries because the NHS wont provide them properly without waiting a century. I'm assuming from your response you have no idea about this and think it must be easy.
I'm not talking about teens i'm talking about full grown adults. No teen should be undergoing GRS or a mastectomy.

And you have no idea what parents on this forum believe. You have made assumptions Just like the people in this forum have. From my age, where I live and apparently most baffling of all what my own grandma would think of me despite not knowing anything about her.

You have been wrong so many times tonight, surely you must be wondering where you are getting your information from?
From the 3 trans women and 1 non binary person I know and there reaction from there same parents which is the same stuff I hear here. I guess I should expect you to go back and find the exact post I explained this in detail like you did for me though with each of there experiences

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Are you aware that Susie green who used to run mermaids took her 16 year old son to Thailand to get his penis removed on his16th birthday after having had him put on puberty blockers aged About 12 -14?

We know what people do when the surgery isn't available in this country.

Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:33

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:18

It's not a threat it is a fact. People in the UK already go to Thailand or if they have the money the Netherlands for these kind of surgeries because the NHS wont provide them properly without waiting a century. I'm assuming from your response you have no idea about this and think it must be easy.
I'm not talking about teens i'm talking about full grown adults. No teen should be undergoing GRS or a mastectomy.

And you have no idea what parents on this forum believe. You have made assumptions Just like the people in this forum have. From my age, where I live and apparently most baffling of all what my own grandma would think of me despite not knowing anything about her.

You have been wrong so many times tonight, surely you must be wondering where you are getting your information from?
From the 3 trans women and 1 non binary person I know and there reaction from there same parents which is the same stuff I hear here. I guess I should expect you to go back and find the exact post I explained this in detail like you did for me though with each of there experiences

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You really need to pack your prejudice away. Look how many times you have been absolutely wrong today. Yet you continue with this kind of shit. “I'm assuming from your response you have no idea about this and think it must be easy.”

Your bitterness about the NHS’s support of this is ridiculous, because the NHS is struggling to provide urgent care for many. If people cannot wait for surgeries that are cosmetic modifications, even if you have been convinced they are ‘life saving ‘ they are not.

And we are talking about children and teens. Adults really can make their own decisions. Again, you make prejudiced assumptions based on what? I doubt you came and read anything extensively here before you rocketed in.

”From the 3 trans women and 1 non binary person I know and there reaction from there same parents which is the same stuff I hear here. I guess I should expect you to go back and find the exact post I explained this in detail like you did for me though with each of there experiences”

What stuff? You mean facts and evidence? What?

Do you think your knowing 3 males who are trans and 1 non binary person males you some kind of expert? Gosh, shall I tell you how many I know? More than that!

I don’t expect anything from you. I think you have shown me all I need to know. I have offered to link you to studies and papers. From clinicians and independent experts. You have shown you are uninterested.

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:34

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:30

I gotta figure out how to do bold text it's very expressive

if your really good the bigly letters fairy sends you a private message to tell you how to do it.

But i don't think you'll be getting a private message from bigly.

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:35

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:31

Can't wait for all of my comments to be removed for hate speech while you all get away with murder. Fun times.

No one has reported you, so you won't get deleted

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:37

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:34

if your really good the bigly letters fairy sends you a private message to tell you how to do it.

But i don't think you'll be getting a private message from bigly.

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Yeaaah. I don't think so. Maybe it's markdown though, lets give that a try.

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MumblesParty · 2023-07-05T11:10:03+00:00

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66107716 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66107716]] And I can't help wondering if the "women" assailants are actually women. Poor kid.

Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:38

Impressive mediumly words.

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:38

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:37

Yeaaah. I don't think so. Maybe it's markdown though, lets give that a try.

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evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:38

> I
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Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:39

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:38

> I
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That will be a no

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:41

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:38

> I
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Although i suggest you press preview before you post so you can see which ones will work!

Hepwo · 06/07/2023 02:44

like thinking people having a mastectomy is wrong even though they should have body autonomy as an adult

Calling this body autonomy is just awful.

How low have people sunk. All this for cross dressing men. Insane.

Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:47

Hepwo · 06/07/2023 02:44

like thinking people having a mastectomy is wrong even though they should have body autonomy as an adult

Calling this body autonomy is just awful.

How low have people sunk. All this for cross dressing men. Insane.

Yes. Spending time with my friend recently one year after surgery and she just copes with the pain. She has worked very hard to regain her arm and movement mobility. Her scars are constantly itchy and nothing helps.

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:50

Helleofabore · 06/07/2023 02:33

You really need to pack your prejudice away. Look how many times you have been absolutely wrong today. Yet you continue with this kind of shit. “I'm assuming from your response you have no idea about this and think it must be easy.”

Your bitterness about the NHS’s support of this is ridiculous, because the NHS is struggling to provide urgent care for many. If people cannot wait for surgeries that are cosmetic modifications, even if you have been convinced they are ‘life saving ‘ they are not.

And we are talking about children and teens. Adults really can make their own decisions. Again, you make prejudiced assumptions based on what? I doubt you came and read anything extensively here before you rocketed in.

”From the 3 trans women and 1 non binary person I know and there reaction from there same parents which is the same stuff I hear here. I guess I should expect you to go back and find the exact post I explained this in detail like you did for me though with each of there experiences”

What stuff? You mean facts and evidence? What?

Do you think your knowing 3 males who are trans and 1 non binary person males you some kind of expert? Gosh, shall I tell you how many I know? More than that!

I don’t expect anything from you. I think you have shown me all I need to know. I have offered to link you to studies and papers. From clinicians and independent experts. You have shown you are uninterested.

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Your bitterness about the NHS’s support of this is ridiculous, because the NHS is struggling to provide urgent care for many
Have you ever seen the form for diagnosing Gender Dysphoria. I've never seen more probing questions on an NHS form and i've took blood tests. GIC are also separate clinics with there own separate funding they don't contribute anywhere near as much as you think to the overall NHS backlog. Apart from GRS which most Trans people don't get access to anyway it's just hormones and laser hair removal at a separate private clinic because the NHS doesn't do repeated laser hair removal sessions themselves.

If people cannot wait for surgeries that are cosmetic modifications, even if you have been convinced they are ‘life saving ‘ they are not
Not every Trans Person has the same level of dysphoria but for some they are.

Do you think your knowing 3 males who are trans and 1 non binary person males you some kind of expert? Gosh, shall I tell you how many I know? More than that! Look at those word gymnastics "3 males who are trans" Instead of "3 transwomen" just rolls of the tongue doesn't it.
How many trans friends do you want me to have christ i'm not a pastor. I think sharing the lived experiences from people in my own life are more important to reference than what some trans activist said last Tuesday on twitter.
What frame of reference do you have for all this or do you just point and guess?

I don’t expect anything from you. I think you have shown me all I need to know. I have offered to link you to studies and papers. From clinicians and independent experts. You have shown you are uninterested? Where? Seriously trying to respond to all this is impossible. If u want to share i'm happy to read. Also papers on what?

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 02:56

evieowlette · 06/07/2023 02:50

Your bitterness about the NHS’s support of this is ridiculous, because the NHS is struggling to provide urgent care for many
Have you ever seen the form for diagnosing Gender Dysphoria. I've never seen more probing questions on an NHS form and i've took blood tests. GIC are also separate clinics with there own separate funding they don't contribute anywhere near as much as you think to the overall NHS backlog. Apart from GRS which most Trans people don't get access to anyway it's just hormones and laser hair removal at a separate private clinic because the NHS doesn't do repeated laser hair removal sessions themselves.

If people cannot wait for surgeries that are cosmetic modifications, even if you have been convinced they are ‘life saving ‘ they are not
Not every Trans Person has the same level of dysphoria but for some they are.

Do you think your knowing 3 males who are trans and 1 non binary person males you some kind of expert? Gosh, shall I tell you how many I know? More than that! Look at those word gymnastics "3 males who are trans" Instead of "3 transwomen" just rolls of the tongue doesn't it.
How many trans friends do you want me to have christ i'm not a pastor. I think sharing the lived experiences from people in my own life are more important to reference than what some trans activist said last Tuesday on twitter.
What frame of reference do you have for all this or do you just point and guess?

I don’t expect anything from you. I think you have shown me all I need to know. I have offered to link you to studies and papers. From clinicians and independent experts. You have shown you are uninterested? Where? Seriously trying to respond to all this is impossible. If u want to share i'm happy to read. Also papers on what?

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Have you ever seen the form for diagnosing Gender Dysphoria. I've never seen more probing questions on an NHS form and i've took blood tests. GIC are also separate clinics with there own separate funding they don't contribute anywhere near as much as you think to the overall NHS backlog. Apart from GRS which most Trans people don't get access to anyway it's just hormones and laser hair removal at a separate private clinic because the NHS doesn't do repeated laser hair removal sessions themselves.

Have you seen the forms and the assessments and the blood tests and the mammograms and the biopsies and the surgeries and the chemo some women who have to have their breasts removed due to cancer go through?

And you want your mates to what? Jump the queue?

Horrible news story

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