To ask everyone who has heard of using pronouns to watch this?

[Moomoola]

its a worthwhile introduction/ explanation of what’s going on that I’ve found. Please watch it - and post your responses. It may also be very worthwhile checking what’s going on in your child’s school - if they’re not in hols!
thank you!

So if I google Megyn Kelly racist? I'll find her actually being racist?

Or will I find someone else saying she is racist?

Because personally I like to see the proof, not just take someone else's word for it.

In fact, every women who DOES speak up for women, is instantly tarred with the ‘right wing, hateful, Nazi bigot’ brush.

Every woman.

No matter how left-leaning, progressive, even LGBTQ+ they might be themselves….

This is the de facto silencing tactic.

The accusations that people who listen to this video are supporting her is there in different formats in posts. Maybe you missed them?

Or maybe you find people attempting to use shame to be acceptable because the words ‘don’t watch it’ wasn’t mentioned?

I follow Riley Gaines on SM. It turns out she is Christian. American Christians get all of my antennae prickling, I must admit. And of course, she gets discredited as being a right-wing, hateful, transphobic bigot.

But, nonetheless, I side with Riley Gaines on this issue, and am thankful she has actually spoken up.

Yup. You said that better than I did.

People we need to think on this

And that works on Left/Liberal women, so they mostly sit down and shut up.

Right/Conservative women shout back. So their voices are the ones being heard.

Right now to your average punter it looks like the Left promote TRAs and child mutilation/sterilisation and the Right are fighting the good fight.

While those of us who have been observing for some time might know it is more nuanced than that it is the huge middle that will actually sway how this plays out in the long term.

Is the heat gettig to some posters or was this somewhere else to start with?

What's with telling grown adults what they should and shouldn't watch?

And as for the purity left is good right is bad spiral some poster are trying to induce... Give it a break.

One of the odd things about the gender debates is the strange bedfellows. Perfect example.

While those of us who have been observing for some time might know it is more nuanced than that it is the huge middle that will actually sway how this plays out in the long term.

Absolutely right, and unfortunately there is going to be a huge amount of collateral damage in the meantime.

https://www.frc.org/blog/2021/04/staggering-reach-billionaire-transgender-activists

just throwing this article into the pile. It ties in with the paper written by Dentons.( which I have somewhere) yup, I believe we are all being duped. But let’s carry on arguing amongst ourselves while furries and minor anrracted persons ( oh there’s that language change angain) paedophiles doesn’t sound so harmless, are discretely added into the mix and normalized.

• mucking about with massive amounts of drugs and have a go at making body bits that our bodies aren’t equipped for does. Actually . Matter. But look, plenty of unwitting teenagers to practise on and improve the surgical techniques. And profits aplenty too!

2021 census - The total population of England and Wales is about 59.6 million.

262,000 people (0.5%) said their gender identity was different from their sex registered at birth.

I am wondering how those 0.5% can make so much noise. And cause so much division all on their ownsomes. Something is going on.

I would love to hear Democratic women with huge platforms talk about the impact of gender ideology on women. Please point me their way.

Will Tulsi do? I don't believe she's been excommunicated - yet.

Indeed.

There is a huge amount of money, and a LOT of long-game organisation involved in this, and that hasn't come from the less-than-1% who are uncomfortable with their birth sex. Someone is orchestrating and controlling this and it won't be for the benefit of the general population.

I worked in a hospital and met a number of transexual (NOT "transgender") people (all men who wanted to present as women).. They knew which sex they were, and that that wouldn't change; they knew that the way they felt was "in their heads"; all they wanted was to be able to be comfortable in their own bodies - and that's what we helped them to achieve.

Sadly, these people will be among the ones who are hurt when the backlash occurs, because they will be tarred with the same brush as the TRAs who insist that they have "changed sex" because they have put on a dress/ done something stereotypically associated with the opposite sex. (And some of them don't even do that - they just make a "declaration").

What is happening now is not dysphoria - it is "kink" and it is dangerous. There is no "cat" gender, or "fae" gender or "furry" gender or any other - there are TWO sexes. "Gender" is how society expects people of either sex to present to the world. Gender is stereotypes.

By all means, break those stereotypes - that can do nothing but good - but don't tell yourself that because you are a man and wear a hair slide, or a woman and have a heavy moustache, that you have changed sex, because you haven't.

And just leave children out of this whole controversy. They are not mentally or emotionally mature to understand any of this. If your daughter wants to have a tool set, let her; if your son wants to wear a skirt, let him. But don't tell either of them that they are in the wrong body.

CliantheLang

Thanks for sharing that.

However, following from the ridiculous ‘guilt by consuming media’ accusations on this thread, this is Fox News and will be quickly rejected by those who doing the approved content for the right type of feminist list.

I, however, will go and listen. I have read about her from time to time and she always has something to say that makes me think or go and check further.

I also note that that Fox regularly are the only mainstream media to platform female athletes who are campaigning to save women’s sports. I know in some countries they also have very experienced and interesting left wing commentators on regularly too. It is always advisable to listen to their stories first hand.

Yet, following the ridiculous approved list (so that we aren’t considering aligned with far right wing and supporting them) those first person accounts would have to be ignored. For purity’s sake.

And people wonder why women are fucked off being censured and shamed for the media they read and watch.

It is interesting.

Of course, even considering that will be not quite the number as so many on twitter bragged about lying on the census, even if it is double that, there is a huge amplification of their voices. That has been done through getting organisations such as Stonewall to add the ‘T’. That added a megaphone effectively.

Once you get groups such as that involved things such as affirming only treatment and influence on policy for organisations involved in our every day lives become realities.

It has been a long deliberate campaign across multiple fronts.

Yes, this thread has a whole lot of discussing her, and not a lot of discussing the actual video and what she says in it. If I largely agree with what she says in this video, it does not mean I agree with what she said the week before.

Thanks. Very pleased about Tulsi. I'll look at it later. Any more?

Thank you Clianthe. That was interesting. Obviously they chose clips from members of congress who they knew would deliver on the mantra. But wasn’t that eye opening to see the thought stopping mantra being used at the start.

Particularly around sports.

And Tulsi is another very articulate and clear woman.

It reminds me of this document.

Messaging Guide : Transgender Youth and the Freedom to Be Ourselves From December 2021

This document details how to link discussions about trans rights to race and how to manipulate a conversation away from sports. Because the group recognised that sport was where their demands broke down. In sympathy and fact. Which in turn broke the logic.

It is quite jarring to see the general population described as ‘persuadables’ (If I remember correctly- I am on my phone so cannot read it) . But if moomoola hasn’t seen this one, maybe it will explain how it is being orchestrated.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fd0f29d0d626c5fb471be74/t/61b13d00236e2f7f2dbb9a36/1639005441624/Transgender+Youth+and+the+Freedom+to+Be+Ourselves.pdf

I'm glad Megyn Kelly is being scrutinised for her wider opinions. Now, for the TRAs on this thread revelling in a chance to burn a witch while shaming women into (im)purity politics, do the same for your own side and let's see what your moral position really is.

However, following from the ridiculous ‘guilt by consuming media’ accusations on this thread, this is Fox News and will be quickly rejected by those who doing the approved content for the right type of feminist list.

There's plenty of other women that make intelligent, informed and powerful statements in support of women's sex based rights, many of them in fact on the MN feminism board. You are NOT doing gender critical women any favours coming out to loudly bat for right wing homophobes and racists, and FOX NEWS FFS. You're sadly doing the GC movement real harm and it's a shame some of you are too blinkered to even realise.

Now, for the TRAs on this thread revelling in a chance to burn a witch while shaming women into (im)purity politics

I've read the whole thread - haven't seen any TRA's. Not one. This kind of response is the right wing equivalent of the far left who accuse any moderate or soft lefter of being a Tory.

Come at me all you want, I ain't gonna be reading your rabid responses.😂

”There's plenty of other women that make intelligent, informed and powerful statements in support of women's sex based rights, many of them in fact on the MN feminism board. You are NOT doing gender critical women any favours coming out to loudly bat for right wing homophobes and racists, and FOX NEWS FFS. You're sadly doing the GC movement real harm and it's a shame some of you are too blinkered to even realise.”

Have you even read what I have posted? Can you tell me where telling someone to stop shaming women for listening or reading a wide range of media is me “coming out to loudly bat”?

Can you tell me why watching and reading media to simply understand what others are saying is ”doing the GC movement real harm”? I am constantly surprised by such censure because it is the opposite to what I recommend to posters who come to FWR. To read widely, go to original sources and make decisions from there.

I am not not ashamed. But you carry on doing things your way and I will continue to read, to fact check, to post original source material and to seek to find the truth.

I've watched a load of her videos now, I still haven't seen racism.

I would very much like those who tell me she is racist to give me a clue where to look.

And no not Google, not someone saying she was racist, actual clips (in full) of her being racist, or when it was she was racist.

As for being Christian or whatever, who cares, shes not going to convert me to christianity at my advanced age.

“You are NOT doing gender critical women any favours”

While you are here, would you like to tell me what you know about gender critical feminism and the FWR board?

Just so I know what credibility to give your shaming.

I did expect the ‘FOX NEWS’ reaction to come.

What I noticed, as usual, there was no addressing the content of either video. Just as there was not addressing the fact that Fox News has given voice to female athletes when so many others haven’t. Did anyone post an alternative other than the wonderful Barra Kerr piece? Did I miss it?

So, just narrow minded posts telling others if they watch or read this they are aligning or supporting. I don’t care whether posters like this women or even don’t want to watch it themselves. Absolutely fine. It is the shaming of others that I am objecting to.

Yet a slew of posters who have not posted on FWR are telling us what women are supposed to be watching and reading. For the best of the current women’s rights movement where so many others are telling us what we are and are not.

And we are expected to that those posters at face value as being women who are also campaigning actively to have sex prioritised where it is needed to protect the needs of women and children.

Shoot the messenger,ignore the message.