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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Now it's "No ND without the T"

177 replies

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 27/06/2023 09:53

The forced teaming is becoming increasingly ridiculous and offensive.

twitter.com/NeurodIreland/status/1670688196290658305?

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Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 09:55

But is that not an admission that trans kids are extra vulnerable due to neurodiversity?

Kevinscousin · 27/06/2023 09:56

Well they can go to hell with this. ND here and I wasn't asked. My disability isn't an identity, so no ta! ( The potential safeguarding risk here fills me with horror!).

Podcats · 27/06/2023 09:56

I saw this. It's utterly bonkers and they are getting completely pasted with comments from autistic gay people, as they should.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 09:56

Fantatic comments underneath that tweet!

Podcats · 27/06/2023 09:57

They obviously went on a hiding spree and then realised it was futile as they were hit with an avalanche of bewilderment and anger.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 09:59

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090

That is right up there with Roderic O Gormans infamous tweet which I have linked as the comments are just hilarious. He was pasted by the lgb community.

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090

ohfook · 27/06/2023 10:01

I've seen a lot on social media recently about how self-diagnosis (of adhd and autism) is valid and I did wonder if this would be the next step.

It feels remarkably close to understanding that huge percentages of trans identifying children also have autism though (especially those born female) even though we know TRAs don't want us examining that link too closely.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 10:04

@ohfook it is a link that needs to be fully explored & exploited. Like is hard enough for neurodiverse children & adults without being coerced into life changing hormones, multilation & castration surgeries.

AmuseBish · 27/06/2023 10:06

ND deserve to have the things they're told to believe explained clearly.

TRAs are so unkind they won't even do this. As seen on plenty of current threads and years of previous ones.

MalagaNights · 27/06/2023 10:06

The fact that neuro diversity has become a meaningless umbrella term that anyone can identify into, is as disastrous for people with actual disabilities as the T being added to LGB.

I think people are beginning to realise this.

It's no surprise at all neurodiversity is being teamed with the T and added to the flag.

Helleofabore · 27/06/2023 10:09

They are getting the pushback they deserve.

Slothtoes · 27/06/2023 10:11

The T should be very, very wary of looking like it is targeting the ND (particularly young ND people) in order to boost the overall numbers of T people. There is huge over representation there and as PP have noted, this link should be looked at very much more closely

Figrolls14 · 27/06/2023 10:18

Sorry, what the shit???!!!

Fromage · 27/06/2023 10:19

So does this mean that as an ND person, if I don't push trans rights, I will no longer be ND? Because if there's no ND without the T, and I choose not to be a trans ally, then I lose my neurodiversity, making my life a whole lot easier? All it takes is not supporting transwomen's rights to be able to leave the house and interract with people and maybe have friends and a job and not need sunglasses even when it's dusk and be able to decode speech properly and understand facial expressions and simple instructions and not find normal road noise terrifying and not be exhausted by a phone call and then I will lose the soul crushing depression that is definitely going to kill me?

Where do I sign up?

Tallisker · 27/06/2023 10:25

Fromage Flowers

PucketyPuckPuck · 27/06/2023 10:26

It makes as much sense as 'no LGB without T'. Ie, none.

I think this is a good thing. The more ridiculous it gets the better.

No renters without the T!
No communism without the T!
No accountancy without the T!
No depression without the T!

The possibilities are literally endless. I hope whatever tool started this takes it all the way, peaking thousands as they go.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 10:26

@Fromage have a look under this Irish Minister for Children's tweet upthread "No lgb without the t"... The comments & backlash he received from the lgb community was spectacular.. He is also a member of the lgb community himself so surely he knew what a sensitive area that is already but no he still posted it.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 10:28

PucketyPuckPuck · 27/06/2023 10:26

It makes as much sense as 'no LGB without T'. Ie, none.

I think this is a good thing. The more ridiculous it gets the better.

No renters without the T!
No communism without the T!
No accountancy without the T!
No depression without the T!

The possibilities are literally endless. I hope whatever tool started this takes it all the way, peaking thousands as they go.

No therians without the T (the ones who identify as animals born in a human body!)

Figrolls14 · 27/06/2023 10:35

So my B and ND must affirm T, but as per Fromage 💐 if not T then can skip B and ND???

Figrolls14 · 27/06/2023 10:36

🍝

Devonshiregal · 27/06/2023 10:43

What an actual knob. What? Like what?

I mean I knooow what he’s trying to say. But what?

neuroLOGICAL conditions (diversity) are just that. And someone can be trans with neurodiversity or without no? Surely he’s not saying that only neurodiverse people are trans? So it’s a neurological disorder/disability now is it?
im so confused

RavingStone · 27/06/2023 10:54

If they cared about ND they wouldn't be threatening and coercing people to lie about people's sex. They wouldn't be adding the mental burden of forcing people to learn pronouns that are not sex based.

Fromage · 27/06/2023 11:10

Also wtf is "neuro-affirming?" All I can work out is "We validate the existence of the human nervous system" as a definition.

Oh, so biology is relevant, then?

mrssilky · 27/06/2023 11:23

As an autistic woman my brain does not compute the sentiment in that image at all OP.
Of course you can be one without the other and all manner of variances.
Like a previous autistic poster, I do not like being told these inaccurate things as they simply just don't make sense amd are really dictatorial.

What I do understand is that for many of us autistics we struggle with our identities because we grew up having to pretend to be like somebody acceptable because people told us the way we were naturally was unacceptable.

Autistic women's identities are complicated and have a tendency to be heavily influenced by our special interests and who we feel happy being when nobody is telling us who we are is wrong...Many who don't change gender will change their names because of ill treatment as children and their names being said in vain a gazillion times.....extrapolate from that what you wish .....please google if you want to know more about this.

I wish NT people ould genuinely leave autistic people alone when they want to identify as whomever they wish. It's central to their wellbeing regardless.

I'm not writing this post to get into a debate about it, just asking for some general understanding of autistic identities if possible and some compassion.

Being autistic is hard and so is explaining it to the world🌸

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 11:27

@mrssilky dictatorial is the perfect word. Thank you.
Agree with your sentiments completely.

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