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Now it's "No ND without the T"

177 replies

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 27/06/2023 09:53

The forced teaming is becoming increasingly ridiculous and offensive.

twitter.com/NeurodIreland/status/1670688196290658305?

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PurpleBugz · 27/06/2023 11:36

Autistic here.

Fuck off.

I'm worried enough my neurodivergent gender non conforming kids are prime target. Big risk already that if they seek groups that are supportive of their ND they going to be indoctrinated into the cult.

Leave vulnerable people alone.

RocketPanda · 27/06/2023 11:41

Oh they can fuck right off with this.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 27/06/2023 11:42

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 09:55

But is that not an admission that trans kids are extra vulnerable due to neurodiversity?

It's the other way around. Given the 5000% increase in girls with autism identifying as trans and non binary there is clearly a need to support these young people more adequately. People with ASD have identity issues due to their autism and the trans fishing net is capturing them as they look for a way to fit in.

octaurpus · 27/06/2023 11:44

Love this comment: 'We absolutely can be neuro affirming without affirming the genocide of autistic people through medical interventions aimed at medicalizing their feelings of otherness in the name of gender incongruence. I'm speaking as an autistic person who's been hurt by this "affirming care."'

RocketPanda · 27/06/2023 11:45

I see one of they have been contacted to remove the logo

maranella · 27/06/2023 11:46

The T movement is forever trying to hitch its nag to someone else's cart that has reality and science on its side already. That's because they have neither and without the legitimacy of other causes, the Emperor is standing there butt naked.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 11:53

@maranella funnily the TRAs are being very adamant NOT to be linked to the furry communitiy or the therians (humans identifying as animals believing they were born in the wrong body)....

BlackeyedSusan · 27/06/2023 11:53

Fromage · 27/06/2023 10:19

So does this mean that as an ND person, if I don't push trans rights, I will no longer be ND? Because if there's no ND without the T, and I choose not to be a trans ally, then I lose my neurodiversity, making my life a whole lot easier? All it takes is not supporting transwomen's rights to be able to leave the house and interract with people and maybe have friends and a job and not need sunglasses even when it's dusk and be able to decode speech properly and understand facial expressions and simple instructions and not find normal road noise terrifying and not be exhausted by a phone call and then I will lose the soul crushing depression that is definitely going to kill me?

Where do I sign up?

Dunno, but I'll be right there in the queue with you.

Florissante · 27/06/2023 11:55

No. Never.

maranella · 27/06/2023 11:57

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 11:53

@maranella funnily the TRAs are being very adamant NOT to be linked to the furry communitiy or the therians (humans identifying as animals believing they were born in the wrong body)....

How ironic, because the one movement they are actually like, are the idiots who believe they're cats or foxes! I mean, what's the difference? A man is convinced he's really a woman or a boy is convinced he's a fox? They're an alliance made in cute, furry heaven!

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 11:59

@maranella exactly.. There is no difference between a boy identifying as a girl or a boy identifying as a cat.. He can never be either.

Brokendaughter · 27/06/2023 12:05

Yes, we ND people bloody well can be without the T.

I absolutely reject that statement, I am ND & have zero to do with some random ideology that is based on wish fulfilment.

My impressive lack of social skills & off track thinking patterns have nothing to do with people who drug & mutilate themselves wanting to dress up as the opposite sex.
In fact, my ND makes it impossible for me to deal with people who are not centred in reality, so having to be around people who are in my opinion delusional makes my life infinitely worse.

For my own mental health I NEED the ND to be without the T.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 27/06/2023 12:11

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 11:59

@maranella exactly.. There is no difference between a boy identifying as a girl or a boy identifying as a cat.. He can never be either.

That's true but there is a strong correlation between children & young people with certain types of autism who identify as animals at times, as a way of managing stress almost like disassociation. There are millions of boys and girls who don't conform to sex class stereotypes and thanks to T cult they are being encouraged to manifest internalised homophobia by declaring 'T'. I'm glad my son came out at 16, ten years ago and missed this new attempt at conversion.

Slothtoes · 27/06/2023 12:12

Flowers Fromage and Brokendaughter
and maranella puts all this perfectly in a nutshell

The T movement is forever trying to hitch its nag to someone else's cart that has reality and science on its side already. That's because they have neither and without the legitimacy of other causes, the Emperor is standing there butt naked

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 27/06/2023 12:13

maranella · 27/06/2023 11:57

How ironic, because the one movement they are actually like, are the idiots who believe they're cats or foxes! I mean, what's the difference? A man is convinced he's really a woman or a boy is convinced he's a fox? They're an alliance made in cute, furry heaven!

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It's all the same in that it's all bollocks.

SidewaysOtter · 27/06/2023 12:13

Fromage · 27/06/2023 11:10

Also wtf is "neuro-affirming?" All I can work out is "We validate the existence of the human nervous system" as a definition.

Oh, so biology is relevant, then?

I suspect "neuro-affirming" is another variation of "I am what I say I am and you WILL agree or else". E.g. people who say they have autism/ADHD/other neurodiversities when they've had no diagnosis beyond than "I saw something on Facebook".

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 12:15

@PTSDBarbiegirl the funny thing is a boy that identifies as a cat will be told he's exploring his identity, he'll grow out of it, it's a phase..
The poor boy identifying as a girl will be affirmed, put on hormone medication & be told all the life changing various surgeries to under take to "become" a girl.
Why are both treated so differently?

Whenwillglorioussummercome · 27/06/2023 12:18

I left my work ND network after the organisers made it very clear that anyone gender critical was not welcome.

Slothtoes · 27/06/2023 12:22

That’s completely discriminatory. I am sorry to hear that.

Florissante · 27/06/2023 13:18

SidewaysOtter · 27/06/2023 12:13

I suspect "neuro-affirming" is another variation of "I am what I say I am and you WILL agree or else". E.g. people who say they have autism/ADHD/other neurodiversities when they've had no diagnosis beyond than "I saw something on Facebook".

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It's almost always "I did an online test and got x score".

WandaWomblesaurus · 27/06/2023 17:19

twitter.com/AusomeIreland/status/1673319120111288320

What is this part of the Twitter deed about?

WandaWomblesaurus · 27/06/2023 17:33

Thread not deed

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/06/2023 17:58

So they want neurodiverse people to be sterilised before they've even had a chance to come to term with themselves and where they fit into adult life?

My ASD is saying FUCK OFF.

My ADHD is saying FUCK OFF YOU PERVY CUNTS AND LEAVE CHILDREN ALONE.

Lightningstrikess · 27/06/2023 18:00

This is Ireland who are also trying to bring in hate speech laws so literally soon there will be no debate unless something is done quickly.